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#135764 01/10/04 09:49 PM
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I'm not particularly fond of Macromedia's Flash. It's a difficult program to use - the Action Script that is. It can do some neat things on the web, if you don't mind waiting and waiting and waiting. Unfortunately, it seems to be all the rage and a necessity if you're going to make web design your living.

My question is, if you have the choice of visiting a Flash version of a website, knowing that it will be a longer wait for pages to load, and more often than not, just a bunch of swirling words that fade in and out, or an HTML version, what do you choose?


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As a webdesigner, I completely agree with you.

However, my boss does NOT. Categorically. To a lot of people not intimately involved with web design, "Flash" is just a synonym for "flashy." Which, again, is a synonym for "good web design."

To them. Not me.

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So how do we use Flash, keep the file size small, make it entertaining without all the gaudiness?

I would make everything in layers and timelines except for the nagging problem of 'sound' associated with buttons (that clients insist on).

I've tried a few javascripts for roll-over button sounds, but have failed to get any of them to work.

Any suggestions?


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I think, screw flash altogether. Put in a couple of rollovers and overlibs, usually it'll make it flashy enough.


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In my opinion Flash just makes a web page look more smoother.

You can always just use flash buttons too which only take up reall litle space


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Personally, I don't see much point in using Flash for buttons, navigation, etc. But I love Flash as an intro and as a teachihg tool. It has amazing properties and if done right, doesn't become a whale in byte size.

True, it does take time to master, but to me, it puts the full capabilities of the web - visual, auditory and literary all together in one neat package.

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Personally, I don't see much point in using Flash for buttons, navigation, etc.
Agreed. But for most websites (ones not specializing in graphical representation, i.e. galleries), the place of flash is mostly restricted to three things:
- rollovers
- splash page
- loading placeholders.

Rollovers you already said it about.

Loading placeholders can be done with other technology (animated gif+script), which takes less space and time to make.

Splash page -- eh, okay. But the splash page is not even there half the time.


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Hi All,

I'm new to this forum and would like to add my comment as well...yeah I agree with you all...
An HTML version website is fast to access than Flash website...The more appealing is Flash website due to it's animations...So the user will definitely remember the site he/she visited to...
If the Website is Combination of Flash and HTML then it will add more advantage..As you all mentioned..

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I would choose the html over flash do to the following reasons. Flash if not done properly can be bulky and slow loading. Seconds compatibility with some browsers or surfers , they don't have the macro media flash plug in.

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Flash cannot be indexed with Search engines, so for the client that MUST have it, they should know that they might not get any online traffic because of it. Can you tell I'm not a Flash fan. LOL!


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