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Gecko
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Be specific and talk about it. Casting undefined aspersions throttles free speech. Perhaps some anti-semitism was meant by someone, perhaps none was. Your general accusation is not a help to discussion of that problem.

If that is not satisfactory, what do you suggest as a solution?

Kai

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Ok maybe this will be some help to you Kai 71. At least twice, the perpertrator of this discussion was mentioned to be Jewish. My question is why.
The man is a Polish citizen and yet he was pointed out to be Jewish. Is this because he critizsed a catholic Polish Pope?
If one would crtitisize a commentator here in this country ( US ) for his bad taste, would the fact that he is Jewish be brought into the factor? Why would it! Afterall, he would still be an American wouldn't he?
It just seems strange that the Jewish factor would be brought up. Being Polish in the US does not detract from ones Americanisim. Why would Jersy Urban's Jewishness be brought up during this controversy? I hope this was helpful Kai.

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It was helpful, thanks. Now to look at the thread and see what I think, though normally it is of no iterest to me. I am impressed at the sensitivity of people and the fine lines they draw, and the stilted language that is sometimes demanded of us in the name of politeness. In this case it buried the meaning for me completely.

Thanks.

Kai

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I spoke too quickly. Iam not to intersted in ging back through five pages of this discussion to look for the tracks. Good luck on getting your answer from the 'perpetrator'.

Kai

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Masongeneral,

My posting was not ment to be anti-semetic, I only found it
reasonable to mention Jerzy Urbans background as a non-Catholic Pole. I find "Nie" as a satirical magazine a necassary
element in the Polish free media.
Again I am not a anti-semite, nor a philosemite or Polish nationalist. People who read my previous postings know my standpoints. Polish jewish intellectuals play in my opinion an important role in the Polish society before and after the second world war. Only the sad thing is that their influence is eagerrated
by reactionary Catholic and Polish nationalist forces, which I consider as people who are counter productive and small minded. The same forces but more influential you have in Hungary, Ukraine and Russia where anti-semitism is more present and visible. Jerzy Urban is as important for free Poland as Adam Michnik from Gazetta Wyborcza and intellectuals like
Geremek and Mazovietski.

Pieter

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In the previous post with "eagerrated" I mean exaggerated.

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