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I've started this thread to explore what kind of person was the man whose birthday Christians celebrate this week.
As a start, why would Jesus want to turn water into wine? Did he discover the first chemical indicator which changes color in acidic & basic solutions and wanted to demonstrate it? Was his message liberate yourself through technology? Carl

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...l_jesus_miracle


Historical Christian Site Said to Be Found


By LAURIE COPANS, Associated Press Writer
CANA, Israel - Among the roots of ancient olive trees,
archaeologists have found pieces of large stone jars of the type the
Gospel says Jesus used when he turned water into wine at a Jewish
wedding in the Galilee village of Cana.

They believe these could have been the same kind of vessels the
Bible says Jesus used in his first miracle, and that the site where
they were found could be the location of biblical Cana. But Bible
scholars caution it'll be hard to obtain conclusive proof -
especially since experts disagree on exactly where Cana was located.

Christian theologians attach great significance to the water-to-wine
miracle at Cana. The act was not only Jesus' first miracle, but it
also came at a crucial point in the early days of his public
ministry - when his reputation was growing, he had just selected his
disciples and was under pressure to demonstrate his divinity.
The shards were found during a salvage dig in modern-day Cana,
between Nazareth and Capernaum. Israeli archaeologist Yardena
Alexander believes the Arab town was built near the ancient village.
The jar pieces date to the Roman period, when Jesus traveled in the
Galilee.
"All indications from the archaeological excavations suggest that
the site of the wedding was (modern-day) Cana, the site that we have
been investigating," said Alexander, as she cleaned the site of mud
from winter rains.
However, American archaeologists excavating a rival site several
miles to the north have also found pieces of stone jars from the
time of Jesus, and believe they have found biblical Cana.
Another expert, archaeologist Shimon Gibson, cast doubt on the find
at modern Cana, since such vessels are not rare and it would be
impossible to link a particular set of vessels to the miracle.
"Just the existence of stone vessels is not enough to prove that
this is a biblical site," and more excavations are needed, he said.
Based on the shards, Alexander believes the vessels found at her
site were 12 to 16 inches in diameter - or large enough to be the
same type of jars described in the Gospel of John.
Other evidence that might link the site to the biblical account
includes the presence of a Jewish ritual bath at the house, which
shows it was a Jewish community. Locally produced pottery was used
at the simple house, showing it could have been from the poor
village described in the Scriptures.
Stephen Pfann, a Bible scholar in Jerusalem, said that while the
American dig has generally been accepted by scholars as the true
site, the shards found in modern-day Cana raise new questions.
"I think there is ample evidence that both sites are from the first
century, and we need more information to correctly identify either
site," Pfann said.
Alexander has been digging in modern Cana since 1999.
The current find came in a last-ditch "salvage dig" before a house
is built on the site. A Christian Arab family financed part of the
excavation, in accordance with Israeli law, before construction can
begin.
Alexander believes that with more substantial investment, the site
could became a major tourist attraction and pilgrimage destination.
"We're really working very hard to save some of this site because
what we do have here is a village of Jesus," she said. "And it was
here that he carried out the first miracle."

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Jesus is God. For more on this, you can read my article titled "This Guy Jesus". You can read it here: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art1208.asp


As for the water into wine, Jesus was asked by His mother to do that as a gift to the newly wedded couple before He actually started His ministry. Youc an read it here :

"John 2:1 Three days later there was a wedding in the village of Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there.
John 2:2 Jesus and his disciples were guests also.
John 2:3 When they started running low on wine at the wedding banquet, Jesus' mother told him, "They're just about out of wine."
John 2:4 Jesus said, "Is that any of our business, Mother--yours or mine? This isn't my time. Don't push me."
John 2:5 She went ahead anyway, telling the servants, "Whatever he tells you, do it."
John 2:6 Six stoneware water pots were there, used by the Jews for ritual washings. Each held twenty to thirty gallons.
John 2:7 Jesus ordered the servants, "Fill the pots with water." And they filled them to the brim.
John 2:8 "Now fill your pitchers and take them to the host," Jesus said, and they did.
John 2:9 When the host tasted the water that had become wine (he didn't know what had just happened but the servants, of course, knew), he called out to the bridegroom,
John 2:10 "Everybody I know begins with their finest wines and after the guests have had their fill brings in the cheap stuff. But you've saved the best till now!"
John 2:11 This act in Cana of Galilee was the first sign Jesus gave, the first glimpse of his glory. And his disciples believed in him.
John 2:12 After this he went down to Capernaum along with his mother, brothers, and disciples, and stayed several days. "

The significance of which is that the new wine (who we become after our salvation) is always better than the old wine (who we used to be).

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Jenna, welcome to my thread & thank you for your reply. My heritage consists of mixed cultures:
German. Austrian, Albanian, Ukrainian, Kazakh.
Religions: Judaism, Orthodox Christianity, Islam.
I believe in God but don�t adhere to any organized religion. And I respect the right of others to express religious beliefs.
IMO Jesus & his ideas had great influence on the world.
I think he changed the properties of the water�acidic to basic or vice water, or to alcohol--using chemistry to symbolically demonstrate that science can be used to change anything, and change was indeed needed then That�s my opinion, but I respect the right of others to have different opinions. Carl

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John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believes in Him shall not persish, but have everlasting life.

He's the Saviour. That's some kind of guy!


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