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#127351 10/28/04 01:53 PM
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And American Beauty, Magnolia, Hapiness, Virgins Suicides, The Ice Storm, Sue, Mulholland Drive,
Lost Highway, Crash, Smoke, Blue in the face,
Another day in Paradise, Kids, Natural Born Killers
and Blue Velvet? Are you a cinematographic freak to!

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Pieter - I like movies - although I'm much more of a music fan - and you've named some of my favourites - "American Beauty", "Natural born killers", "Crash" and "Blue Velvet".

from the last 5 years I'd say my fave films would be: American Psycho, Battle Royale, memento, the pianist, pitch black, Baise moi, American Beauty, goodbye lenin, Crouching tiger hidden dragon....

incidentally - was John Peel well known in Holland?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/index.shtml

I've been so saddened by his death - it's almost like losing a member of my family.


CO SIE POLEPSZY, TO SIE POPIEPRZY....
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If Jack Kerouac was alive today, he would organize freedom loving Muslism to fight terrorism.

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Quote:
Originally posted by sciwriter:
[qb] Pieter, coincidence? Why did Kerouac choose "Arabs blowing up?"
Raytan, was 9/11 an anniversary of any event then?
Carl [/qb]
He chose "Arabs" because he had a sweater wrapped aroundhis head, and he chose "Blowing up New York" because he was a young male and life was so exciting. Boys always want to blow things up, haven't you noticed? :rolleyes:


...If you go back and look at your old checkbooks, I bet you'll find one or two that you signed on 9/11/1991...
What were they for? Anything momentous?


...and all manner of things shall be well
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Hi, Dragonmom: Kerouac was too specfic. As a youngster in Bronx, NYC in 1950's, after doing research for schoolwork in the Morrisania library in 1950, I often ate lunch in a nearby African restaurant called Kumasi Dubar frequented by 3rd world people. I overheard some Arabs talking about detonating bombs in NYC to demonstrate their fight for independence vs. Western colonialism, but didn't have the organization or technology. They talked about Algeria. The French-Algerian War started later in 1954. Kerouac must have known, as he was French-Canadian.

Why 9/11 on a check in a movie related to Saddam? Carl

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The early 1950�s in USA were an era of predictions. Colliers 1951 article predicted the downfall of Communism in Soviet Union provoked by USA military action. While this downfall was the result of other causes 1n 1991, the article was quite predictive. Carl

http://www.norfolkacademy.org/fac_staff/~rezelman/research.htm

The Cold War and Cultural History
Another potential future subject of research is the cultural history of the Cold War. This is a rich and promising field, and happily one that does not (for the most part) rely on the declassification of government documents. Paul Boyer's By the Bomb's Early Light remains the classic of the genre, but the subject since 1950 is still largely unexplored. A history of "World War III," as it was variously depicted in fiction and films, is a subject of particular interest to me. A great starting point for this is the special October 27, 1951, issue of Collier's magazine (right), which was devoted in its entirety to a "Preview of the War We Do Not Want."


http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/nuclear/2chap.htm

Rabid militarism was far more common in the fifties than Heinlein's
position. Some writers went so far as to advocate that the United States make a
first strike against the enemy. Even after the Russians developed (or stole, as
was commonly thought), the A-bomb, the prospect of annihilating their country
with a devastating nuclear attack was irresistibly attractive to many. Perhaps
the most striking elaboration of this fantasy has been mentioned in chapter 1,
the special issue of Collier's magazine for October 27, 1951, entitled "Preview
of the War We Do Not Want." The Russians here are joyously liberated from their
cruel Communist masters by a righteous nuclear assault on the Soviet Union,
prompted by its invasion of Yugoslavia

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