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For skeeterj #118021
12/27/03 04:21 AM
12/27/03 04:21 AM
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Norfolk, VA
Bob S. Offline OP
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This site was sent to me by another retired serviceman. It may take a while to download and perhaps you have already seen it and maybe this is not the forum to post it, but I did enjoy it myself. The site is:
http://www.nathanadams.com/WeSupportU.htm
There is no spam or virus because I risked my "puter" with no ill effects.


Robert F. Stachurski
Re: For skeeterj #118022
12/28/03 02:13 AM
12/28/03 02:13 AM
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NJ, USA
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Bob, great presentation! Thanks.
God bless our service people & God bless America. I bookmarked the site & I'll forward it online. Although I often criticize our Government's policies & have some avant garde ideas...

I'm proud to be an American mainly because:
. America offers its citizens opportunity for social & economic advancement based primarily on ability & contribution to society, not solely on membership in an inherited social class.
America sticks up for the little guy internationally, e.g., Israel, Poland & Taiwan.
. All people in America's melting pot of ethnic cultures, races & religions can call themselves Americans, which is valuable in ensuring cooperation required to cope with difficult problems.
I couldn't serve in our armed forces because IL developed nerve deafness in early childhood.
Regards, Carl

Re: For skeeterj #118023
12/28/03 04:52 AM
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Bob S. Offline OP
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Thanks Carl. Another site i visit quite often is the Pallete Master. This old gentleman lives in Texas and his pages are wonderful, By the way, if you notice, TexMex music has a Polka beat to it. Maybe that Polka beat is because many Germans and Poles went to that state to live.


Robert F. Stachurski
Re: For skeeterj #118024
12/28/03 11:40 AM
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Great site Bob,

I do remember very well. As you do I'm sure. My finale tour in the Marine Corps was in VietNam.

I just pray for the young men and women of the various armed forces that are working togetherin Iraq. viking

Re: For skeeterj #118025
12/28/03 12:41 PM
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Bob, A little about the Poles in Texas - -

Father Leopold Moczygemba, a Polish Franciscan missionary, had been working in the areas of San Antonio, New Braunfels, and Castroville since September 1852, and it was through his influence that a group of some 100 Polish families (accounts vary as to the exact number), from Pluznica and other villages of the Upper Silesian area of Poland, arrived in south central Texas. They sailed on the Weser, out of Bremen, and landed in Galveston on December 3, 1854; traveling inland, they founded the town of Panna Maria ("Virgin Mary") in Karnes County on December 24, 1854 (having the first Mass said there on Christmas Day following). Their new town was located on 300 acres at the junction of the San Antonio and Cibolo rivers; the land was purchased from John Twohig. This was the first permanent Polish colony in the United States, and ruins of the first stone buildings remain today. tut viking <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: For skeeterj #118026
12/28/03 04:44 PM
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I had a chance to visit Panna Maria. It is a small village with a Polish church. but it is surrounded by other villages with Polish immigrants as well.
The beginning of Panna Maria was very difficult. Father Moczygemba was not really liked by the Silesian farmers because the expactations were much higher than a reality. He has to leave eventually.

Early History of the German and Polish Settlements in Texas]

Panna Maria - Difficult First Years


I also have an article about the cowboys from nearby who were a trouble for people from Panna Maria. Not too many people access this one article usually:

<a href="http://www.bellaonline.com/Article.asp?id=903" target="_blank">Panna Maria and Cowboys from Helena
</a>

Re: For skeeterj #118027
12/29/03 12:53 AM
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Jaga, interesting story of the cowboys & Polish immigrants. It would make an excellent movie or TV series (seriously). Carl

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12/29/03 01:38 AM
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Bob S. Offline OP
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Very godd reading and excellent history lesson Jaga. At that period of time anything west of the Mississippi was really a true wilderness and the hardships endured by the early settlers can never be understated. It should be remembered that the question of slavery arose in different territories most notible of which are the border wars of Kansas and Missouri. This is another place were wholesale mass murder and atrocities took place. Atrocities was not limited to one side or another: both pro and anti slavery advocates were almost equally responsible to mass murder and mayhem. If a person walks the battlefields of the Civil War or visit the sites of early settlements the one thing that can be felt is an overwhelming sense of sorrow that prevades these sites today. There is no sense of glory and greatness, only sadness.


Robert F. Stachurski

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