Yeah, I didn't like the two latest Batman movies, they were too much like the latest Bond movies. 'Batman Returns' is my fave superhero film of all time though, I think it's superb. I agree that Jack was a much better Joker than poor Heath too. The thing I most disliked about 'The Dark Knight' was the fact they chnged Joker's origin and everything about him - where was the Joker gas? etc. They've taken all the fun out of the COMIC book movies. Agree about Ras Al Guhl as well - that was nearly as bad as Katie Holmes acting LOL.