logo

THIS IS THE NEW SERVER - WE ARE STILL TWEAKING IT
Channel List
Beauty & Self
Books & Music
Career
Computers
Education
Family
Food & Wine
Health & Fitness
Hobbies & Crafts
Home & Garden
Money
News & Politics
Relationships
Religion & Spirituality
Sports
Travel & Culture
TV & Movies
Safety
We take forum safety very seriously here at BellaOnline. Please be sure to read through our Forum Guidelines. Let us know if you have any questions or comments!
Newest Members
NerdWellness, stapwahjnd02, jkovach, LindaT999, Aki
57730 Registered Users
Forum Stats
57,730 Registered Members
417 Forums
115,280 Topics
819,780 Posts

Most users ever online: 615 @ 04/22/15 10:11 AM
Top Posters (30 Days)
"Rosie" 417
Nancy Roussy 358
Connie - ADD/Sandwiches 136
Mona - Astronomy 132
Sheryl T 74
Deanna - New Age 73
Korie - California Editor 50
Susan - Meditation Editor 39
Terri - Exercise/Yoga Editor 30
Lestie4containergardens 29
Ad Income Supports Charity
Topic Options
#460261 - 10/17/08 11:46 AM Jesse James
Phyllis Doyle Burns Offline
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17644
Loc: Reno, NV
Hi Vance.

I know this is old stuff - but, Jesse James was a distant cousin of my maternal grandmother. I have read a lot about him but find so many discrepancies on his life and deeds.

Can you shed any light on this for me? The reason I am curious is that my grandson now knows about "cousin Jesse" and is not sure what to believe. In one sense, like I felt when I was a child, he is proud of the relation and in another he is rather shocked. I remember, as a kid, my siblings and I all fought to see who would be Jesse in our games of pretend.


Edited by Phyllis, BellaEd (10/17/08 11:47 AM)
_________________________
Walk in Peace and Harmony.
Phyllis Doyle Burns
Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain

Top
#460368 - 10/17/08 04:55 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: Phyllis Doyle Burns]
Vance - Crime Editor Offline
BellaOnline Editor
Wolf

Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 5409
Loc: Gloversville, New York
Jesse James has been glamorized. No matter how glamorous they make Jesse James, make no mistake about it, he was a thief and he was a killer.

He was involved in crime long before his mother was hurt and his step brother or cousin or whoeverhe was to Jesse that was killed by the railroad people by accident so dont think for a minute that he turned to crime and against the railroad after that happened, no he was deep in it prior to that.

He even rode with Quantrill's Raiders for a while as well long before the incident at his farmhouse. I am gathering info for an article on Jesse James now.
_________________________
Vance Rowe
Crime Editor

Top
#460441 - 10/17/08 08:35 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: Vance - Crime Editor]
Phyllis Doyle Burns Offline
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17644
Loc: Reno, NV
Wow! That should be a good article. Thanks, Vance.
_________________________
Walk in Peace and Harmony.
Phyllis Doyle Burns
Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain

Top
#460447 - 10/17/08 08:50 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: Phyllis Doyle Burns]
C.C. Offline
Shark

Registered: 09/08/08
Posts: 371
Wow, Phyllis, it's interesting to know you have that connection with Jesse James. shocked I can see why your sibling and you were fighting over who would be Jesse.

From all the documentary I have watched on history channel on Jesse James, unfortunately, like Vance said, he was no saint although famous. My understanding is that many of his heroic accounts are simply glamourized.

I look forward to Vance's article.


Edited by Cara-Philosophy (10/17/08 08:51 PM)

Top
#460450 - 10/17/08 08:58 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: C.C.]
Phyllis Doyle Burns Offline
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17644
Loc: Reno, NV
I guess that is true, Cara. Some things, like childhood heroes, fade away with time. My grandson is going thru the same feeling we went thru as kids and someday, he too, will realize that not all ancestors were heroes.

My grandson has a mentor (his teacher of two years) who has an ancestor that was one of the Dalton brothers. So, they discuss this once in awhile and grandson is learning I hope that ol'Jesse was not such a good guy. At least he is not obsessed with it like we were as kids. It was such a big deal back then when it was so glamorized. Grandson is smarter than we were.
_________________________
Walk in Peace and Harmony.
Phyllis Doyle Burns
Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain

Top
#460454 - 10/17/08 09:09 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: Phyllis Doyle Burns]
C.C. Offline
Shark

Registered: 09/08/08
Posts: 371
It is wonderful that your grandson is learning a part of his heritage and has a good mentor at school. Even though our ancestors might not all be heros, it is still important to honor the heritage. I still think it's awesome your family has that connection as Jesse James was an important part of the American history.

Top
#460471 - 10/17/08 09:55 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: C.C.]
Phyllis Doyle Burns Offline
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17644
Loc: Reno, NV
Thanks for your kind words, Cara. Heritage and the knowledge of our ancestors is important. The good thing to know is that Jesse's whole family was not bad - he was just a bad seed. My grandson will learn the difference between pride in infamous ancestors and pride in the goodness of ancestors. It is good that he is interested in his heritage.
_________________________
Walk in Peace and Harmony.
Phyllis Doyle Burns
Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain

Top
#460512 - 10/18/08 06:50 AM Re: Jesse James [Re: Phyllis Doyle Burns]
toddzgrrl02 Offline
Shark

Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 318
Loc: Illinois
Interesting! I'm related to the man who shot Billy the Kid on my mom's dad's side of the family. The Garrett family.
_________________________
Michelle

Top
#460677 - 10/18/08 06:05 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: toddzgrrl02]
Vance - Crime Editor Offline
BellaOnline Editor
Wolf

Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 5409
Loc: Gloversville, New York
Billy the Kid is another interesting character but also very deadly. His death is shrouded in mystery too. Did Pat Garret kill him or he did he die of old age in the 1950's?
_________________________
Vance Rowe
Crime Editor

Top
#460901 - 10/19/08 12:45 PM Re: Jesse James [Re: Vance - Crime Editor]
Phyllis Doyle Burns Offline
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17644
Loc: Reno, NV
Billy The Kid is dead? shocked


Edited by Phyllis, BellaEd (10/19/08 12:45 PM)
_________________________
Walk in Peace and Harmony.
Phyllis Doyle Burns
Avatar: Fair Helena by Rackham, Public Domain

Top


Want to reply? Register as a Forum Member - it's quick, free and fun!
Brand New Posts
Maria Mitchell - birthday
by Mona - Astronomy
Astronomy
26 minutes 7 seconds ago
Spiders!
by Mona - Astronomy
Clairvoyance
36 minutes 9 seconds ago
What did you SPEND money on today?
by Nancy Roussy
Frugal Living
Today at 08:09 AM
Slow Day on the Golf Course
by Sandy - Golf Editor
Golf
Today at 07:16 AM
What exercise did you do today?
by Nancy Roussy
Exercise
Today at 06:07 AM
What will you do today?
by Mona - Astronomy
Inspiration
Today at 05:27 AM
Guide to Creating Natural Summer Hand Sanitizer
by BB -Body Care
Body Care
Today at 04:54 AM
Brief Sewing History
by Cheryl - Sewing Editor
Sewing
Today at 04:51 AM
Apalachin Summit
by Vance - Crime Editor
Crime
Today at 04:40 AM
What is your stress level today?
by Nancy Roussy
Stress Management
Today at 12:28 AM
Register to Post!
Want to post? For security reasons you need to Register as a Forum Member. It's quick, easy and free!
Forum Activities
Book Clubs
Trivia Contests
Who's Online
1 registered (Izeigo), 67 Guests and 5 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Ad Income Supports Charity



| About BellaOnline | Privacy Policy | Advertising | Become an Editor |
Website copyright © 2015 Minerva WebWorks LLC. All rights reserved.