Still working on my journey. With a perm, my hair was long enough to pull back, but the chop was starting all over again. As my hair is growing without being touched with relaxers or color (the no-color is kind of rough, too much grey for my liking), it's getting a little frustrating since it's not long enough to pull back, The problem is that it's no longer, what can be defined as a TWA, but it's not long enough for other styles so I'm struggling with finding styles for that in-between phase. I can see why some women revert back to chemicals, but I remain resilient to see this natural hair style through....grrr.