Hi there, no joke, at school we had a gardener called Amen. We were taught that one possible meaning of Amen was ... we all agree... And then you know how people use the phrase ... and amen to all of that... or similar. This was back in the then Rhodesia now Zimbabwe (I grow old, I grow old...) and Amen was going to horitcultural school while doing fulltime gardening on a parttime basis for the school to gain his practical experience. We used to tease him and each time he would say something like Yes but my name is Amen so you have to agree (that I am smart/or that I am good etc.) He really was a character. Thankyou Lynne for this post and subject, you have given me a really nice lot of memories to think over. They were the good old days in many ways - school days and all and all. Cheers Lestie Container Gardening Editor