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#825021 06/07/13 12:56 PM
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Here is an url by Thubten Dhondrub on Karma.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odlZDiez0xU[url]

This monk has a softness in his speach that makes you easily understand what for some would be complicated if explained by another.
Other texts will follow on the subject.

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I open my e-mails and there is one by Banthe on Karma:

Friends:

Which Intentional Actions (Kamma) influence Social Position?



A student once asked the Buddha:
Master Gotama, what is the cause and condition why some human beings
are influential and prominent, while others are neglected and disrespected?

The Blessed Buddha then explained:
Here, friend, some man or woman is envious, is one who is jealous, resents, and
begrudges the gains, honour, respect, reverence, salutations, fame, name or
veneration that is rightly received by others...
Because of intending and performing such action, at the breakup of the body,
right after death, such one is reborn in a state of difficulty, in a wretched
destination, in the painful purgatory, or even in the hells...
But if such one at the breakup of the body, right after death, is not reborn
in an state of deprivation, a painful destination, the purgatory, or in the hells,
but instead comes back to the human state, then wherever such one is reborn,
such one is not influential, unimportant, neglected and disrespected #!
These are the actions, friend, leading to future disrespect: Being envious, being
one who is jealous, resents, and begrudges the gains, honour, respect, reverence,
salutations, fame, name or veneration that is rightly received by others...
However, friend, any man or woman, who is neither envious, jealous, resenting,
nor begrudging the gains, honour, respect, reverence, salutations, fame, name and
veneration rightly received by others, because of intending and undertaking such
good mental action, at breakup of the body, after death, such one reappears in
a pleasurable and happy destination, even in one of the many divine dimensions!
But if at the breakup of the body, right after death, such one is not reborn in
a happy destination, in the heavenly worlds, but instead comes back to a human
state, then wherever such one reappears, such one is influential, and respected !!!
This is the way, friend, leading to prominence and influence, namely neither being
envious, jealous, resenting, nor begrudging the gains, honour, respect, reverence,
salutations, fame, name or veneration that is rightly received by others...

#: Such one escapes hell, because the evil present kamma is modified by past good!
%: Such one miss heaven, because the good present kamma is modified by past evil!

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Just finished listening for 20 odd minutes the video on Kamma/Karma,that I had written 2 posts ago,giving you an url.
To my surprise,everything said concorded with my view on Karma.
The cleansing ,the repetitions,the searching.
Every thing.

Please make yourself a gift ,and listen to the video.It is only twenty odd minutes of your life.
This video may totally change your present and future life.

A happy
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Just finished listening for 20 odd minutes the video on Kamma/Karma,that I had written 2 posts ago,giving you an url.
To my surprise,everything said concorded with my view on Karma.
The cleansing ,the repetitions,the searching.
Every thing.

Please make yourself a gift ,and listen to the video.It is only twenty odd minutes of your life.
This video may totally change your present and future life.

A happy
Loong
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The word Karma is getting more and more spoken off.Today I was in a Van Houtte coffee shop where they had little advertisement,saying:Buying this coffe will bring yyou good Karma
because it comes from a co-op in a third world country.

Alteady lost the advertisement,man what a damaged brain.

loong
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For the last 2 days,afriend has reintered my world.I was surprised to hear speak of buddhism.This man used to be a big drug traffiquer.He has been kind of hiding for about 8 tears now,
having a $ 25,000. contract on him.
His father died recently.All the things his father promised him were stolen from him ,by his sister.I can't tell him it's his karma,for doing bad things in the past.Today was our second afternoon together,and he said that he had not felt this good,since his sister,took everything away from him.

All I do is listen to his rage and try to direct him to the white side,He made an offer 2 days ago th his sister,if she refuses,a lot of bad things will happen to his sister and family.

I tryed to tell him to go to a layer first.She, for stealing everything will have to live the according Karma,and he is living his the Karma from the past.

There is no way to escape Karma.

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This afternoon ,I was with a friend that ,spirituality,is not his forte.He is a ,hard to define, used to be a big dope dealer and has been hiding with the our Feds,sort of protection.

We were speaking about the sentences ,the 2 persons that stabbed me.He said they may get only 6 months even if the criminal code
says they can get up to 14 years for stabbing me.I said ,if they only get 6 months for all the suffering ,physical specially mental,I don't know how I will react.

He says: Norm ,your karma that you always talk about may be in
the future.These kids if they get out with a small sentence,will
first be mistreated inside.6 months is long when you get raped every nite.If it does not happen this way,outside ,one day they will meet people crazyer than them.

Imagine ,a guy like that straightening my line.Buddha uses all
the tools needed so that his Dharma ,be understood.

I thanked my friend.

Everything,everyone in the Universe is intertwined,got another proof today.

Read ,today, Buddha saying don't push anger away,use it's energy to strenghten your Mindfulness.

loong

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Yes, and bottom line, do you think these beings (who stabbed you) are happy? Of course not. So they are already reaping their karma. Have you done metta practice towards them yet?


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Dear Teacher,

I was stabbed on April 17th at 7.12 at nite.The first thing that sprung in my mind when I woke up was to pardon them and I sent them Compassion thoughts.

Still as I write this, there is no anger,resentment towards them.
You have no Idea of the suffering I have gone through in the last 3 months,Mentally,and specially Physicly.It seems that I have suffered some sort of after stabbing side effect.Where they put the drain to empty my lungs,a hose of about 3/4 of an inch,
as I write to you hurts .It might last a year or two.

So maintaining metta and karuna thoughts for these two kids ,makes me a better buddhist,my suffering being nothing compared to the sufferings of the Tibetans.

Thank you my Teacher

loong
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I wonder what is the Karma.for killing an innocent woman of 74?

loong,just wondering

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Karma applies to anyone and everyone,may one beleive or not in it.
Cannot give more details than that.

With compassion
loong

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For me karma is what you did to others.

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To Nancy,

What about the good you did to yourself?

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If you never did any bad things then you should be okay when you die.

If you mean someone who did bad things and also good things then the good things should not erase the bad things so I hope karma still get these people.

That's my opinion (and hope because awful people RARELY get what they deserve here on our level...speaking of that i often think that where we are is worst than hell) of karma.

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To Nancy

Good living will erase a bit of the bad karma,but not all of it.

Karma can be instant and can be in the future.The 2 boys that stabbeb me, will have to pay a karma simular to the act done.

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First,you have no idea how much pleasure the birthday cake ,does to me.I want to thank the or group of persons that thought about that.

Second a short text by Banthe.

Friends:
Cause & Effect: Action & Reward:
Giving is the prime cause of Wealth!
No giving = no wealth, much giving = much future wealth!
Giving Food, one gives and later gets Strength!
Giving Clothes, one gives and later gets Beauty!
Giving Medicine, one gives and later gets Health!
Giving Shelter, one gives and later gets Protection!
Giving Transport, one gives and later gets Swift Ease!
Giving Lamps, one gives and later gets Light and Sight!
Giving Learning, one gives and later gets Intelligence!
Giving True Dhamma, one gives & later gets Deathlessness!
Thus this gift of True Dhamma exceeds all other gifts...


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To My Teacher,

If life only begins when there is breath from a new born,What happens to KARMA during those 9 months?And when will rebirthing happen?

loong the learner

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The idea behind this belief is that the mindstream, the samskaras, are not tied to a particular physical body until that moment of the first breath. They are attracted at conception, but not yet tied until the first breath. Others believe it is tied at conception. So there is some variation. But in general it isn't of as much interest in Buddhism as it is in say, Christianity. Partly because of the belief in rebirth - because of that there is a different relationship to life.


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Originally Posted By: Nancy Roussy
If you never did any bad things then you should be okay when you die.

If you mean someone who did bad things and also good things then the good things should not erase the bad things so I hope karma still get these people.

That's my opinion (and hope because awful people RARELY get what they deserve here on our level...speaking of that i often think that where we are is worst than hell) of karma.


Hi Nancy, this is part of karma, but it is also about your state of awareness. Really karma manifests as our own awareness. And when we are in a state of awareness in which we can do harmful things to others, we are mired even deeper in delusion - further from our true essence of enlightenment - than when we do good things.

But it is never just about those actions because we could be doing good things for the wrong reasons (attention, reward, etc.) And then we are no closer to enlightenment than if we haven't done those things. In fact, if we get attached to them, we may move even further away.

So our actions are just one part of it in Buddhism. It is also always about where we are in our minds, what our relationship is to others and ourselves in our minds, and whether we can see ourselves and all beings as one, and hold them and ourselves with compassion based on this.


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Dear Lisa,

You mentionned in a post that some lineages permitted abortion,could you please name some.

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Friends:
Any Cause produce an Effect:


Therefore:
Never do any Evil!
Neither openly, nor in Secret...
If having done bad, or is doing wrong now, pain surely returns,
even though one flee by flying away up into the deep empty space...
The effect of any action, good as bad, follows the doer like a shadow,
that never leaves... Consequence is always Certain... Why so?
Because one cannot hide anything for one's own mind!
It knows, remembers and re-creates reactions accordingly!
Mind is therefore the forerunner of all phenomena...


Buddha Gautana

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Found another discourse on karma

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SzRS3a48ec[url]

Hope you enjoy it as I did.

Loong

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There is inherited karma, and the karma we create.

good or bad

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Often thought I had been handed a bad karma.
This morning it is 8:15 am where I live,I just discovered that
like all humans I had my share of suffering.The hardest part was
the 3 mental deseases.Alcoolism,and drug dependancy all
the operations and a few more that will come.

However ,I had the inner strength to survive these,and to conquer
them.My meeting with Buddhism ,helps and helped me understand all
the sufferings.

It is the Holyday season,and all I see ,is drinking ,bickering
people with dreams but only dreams ,do not do anything to realise their dreams.

My only dream is to be a better person .I do the outmost that I
can to attain this.My karma was a good karma received,a karma
that I could work on in the last 67 years.

May your karma be a good one too.

loong
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Karma

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ZJhFak3-0[url]

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The last post,is a movie,hard to look at .

Comments apreciated

loong

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After watching the movie I cried.

Forgiveness,compassion,but yet Karma ,cause and effect....

loong
almost no movie moved me like this one.Makes one think.

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unfortunately when I click on the link i get a Youtube message that says 'this video is not available in your country, sorry about that'...so I suspect no U.S. readers can view it...probably a copyright thing or something like that...


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Today or yesterday,a man that committed génocides died.
Karma where is it .He was in a coma for 6 years I beleive.

This man would brag that his biggest action of war,was to enter a refugee camp with his men ,and getting out of it,EVERYONE DEAD.

Men ,women and children all dead .
My buddhist path asks me to have compassion for that man.

Someone else shall inherit his Karma

Loong

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Those who follow me on a regular basis,know that my brain is
Damaged,specially considering my past,that is almost a blank.

Recently,I started hanging out with an ex-girlfriend must have been
Around 1990,not sure.For a long time ,not knowing exactly all the reasons,I in some way had her ,like ,don't,t touch.

This morning ,I had a flashback .A flashback of her always thinking
Of her first ,in everything.What lighted up my souvenirs,is that her 16 year old daughter treats her like she TREATED her poor mother.One memory of her swearing and yelling at her mother like she was horse manure.Her daughter is doing the same things to her.
She ,the daughter does not go to school ,saying she cannot be,
With other people her age in a class.
When I was young I could not either,suffering from agoraphobia.
But I stayed in class.At our house my brothers and I,had to be one of the 3top students in our class or we would be grounded for the month.

This morning wrote my friend a letter,that after she had read it,
I kept.In her letter I told her she did not love her daughter,but WAS IN LOVE with her daughter.

KARMA she is living what she did to her mother.Finally,
All the pieces of their puzzle came together,they are bound by
The all mighty KARMA .

Loong
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Going through my records to find new subjects to write about ,I came upon a summarized text of 11pages on Karma and Rebirth.
Tomorrow...... Shall start this new find.
Loong
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Going through my bookshelves found a nice text on Karma
It also speaks of Re-Birth,contains 11 pages of text and is from www.the big view.com

Today we shall start with the intro of that little booklet.

KARMA AND RE-BIRTH.

The wheel of life ,or SAMSARA,is an ancient symbol that has the same meaning in Buddhism and Hinduism.It symbolizes the cycle of birth and life and death .When one revolution of the wheel is completed,life begins again with rebirth.

Tomorrow!!!! We will go into the text part.

Loong
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P.s.for a long while I made my own books ,by downloading and printing and having them assembled
This one dates July 12 2007.

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WHAT IS KARMA?

Karma is a Sanskrit word that literally means "action".The word is used to refer to volitional acts as well as the forces that arise from these acts.The idea of karma had existed in ancient Indian philosophy before the time of Siddhartha Gautama,and it became an important element of Buddhist philosophy.

The Hindu and Buddhist concept of Karma are quite similar although Hinduism makes a further distinction between different types of Karma,such as present Karma,latent &future Karma.In the understanding of both thought systems,the law of Karma describes the connection between actions and the resulting forces ,as follows;wholesome actions lead to wholesome states while unwholesome states,individually and as well as collectively.

Loong's comment:In Hinduism a soul is involved,Buddhism does not believe in an immortal soul.Everything being impermanent,and
totally controlled by the Mind.

Loong
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THE ETHICAL DIMENSION
To make this more intelligible ,one has to account for(in)wholesome actions and unwholesome states,and their respective meaning in Buddhism.The former is outlined in the Noble Eighfolkd Path.Action springs from volition,which springs from intention ,which springs from thought,and so forth.The quality of actions can be described in ethical terms,simply as either good or bad ,or both good or bad,or indifferent.There are various grades of ethical qualities,and most people have an intuitive understanding that enables them to discern between good and bad,although the discerning ability depends on the persons state of mental development.A wise person at a high level of mental development can clearly discern good from bad,,mental activities and actions in an ethical dimension ,while adeluded person has difficulties or is even unable to do so.

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Text taken from The big view org.

GOOD AND BAD VS SKILFUL AND UNSKILFUL.

Whenever the three defilements-delusion,greed,and aversion ,are present ,they blur the view and increase the level of confusion
in the individual or group.Consequently,if the defilements are present,there is a low level of skill in distinguishing between good and bad actions.Thus it makes sense to say that we have skillful(good)and unskilful(bad) thoughts,we speak skillful(good)and unskilful(bad) words,and we act either in a
skillful(good)or in an unskilful(bad) way.

The Buddhist Precepts and the Ten Perfections give concrete meaning to good and bad and explain skillful and unskilful volitional acts in detail.Since everything in Buddhism is interrelated,the Eightfold Path must be seen in connection with the Four Noble Truths,the concept of karma,and the tenet of rebirth.

Loong
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Text taken from the site Www,The big view.

MORAL QUALITY OF VOLITIONAL ACTS DETERMINES KARMA.

The law of Karma states that there is a connection between the moral quality,the level of skill in volitional actions,and the resulting states.What we are is determined largely by what we thought,said and did in the past,while what we are thinking ,saying,and doing now will form our future.The Karma of past,present,and future events are connected by the law of cause and effect.
For instance,if one generates bad karma by hurting or killing sentient beings,one will have to endure the negative consequences of these dees in this or another lifetime,Similarly ,if one generates good karma by observing the precepts ,positive consequences will follow inevitably.
Buddhists understand Karma as a natural law.
There is no higher instance,no judgment,no divine intervention ,and no gods that steer mans destiny,but only the law of karma itsel,
Which works on a global frame .Deeds yeild consequences either in the next second,in the next hour,day,month,year decade or even in the next lifetime,or in another distant lifetime.To illustrate
this consider the following example describing a sequence of volitional acts,which yield instant karmic results.

Enough for today.

Loong
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EXAMPLE ;The arising of voliation and Karma.


An unpleasant sensation occurs.A thought arises that the source of
the unpleasantness was a person.This thought is a Delusion;any decision based upon it will therefore be be unskilful.A thought arises that some past sensations of unpleasantness issued from this same person .This thought is further delusion.This is followed by a
wilful deision to speakwords that will produce an unpleasant sensation in which is perceived as a peron .This decision is an act of hostility.

Of all the events described so far,only this is called karma.Words are carefully chosen in the hopes that when heard they will cause pain .The wors are pronounced aloud.this is the execution of the decision to be hostile.It may also be classed as a kind of karma,technically it is after-karma

enough for today

this text is taken from www.the big view.com

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This text is taken from a resume on karma and rebirth from
the Big View.

Today we shall enter the world of REBIRTH.

Buddhists hold that the retributive pocess of karma can span more than one lifetime.REBIRTH,in Buddhism ,reincarnation in other phylosophies otr religions,has always been an mportant tenet in Buddhism.and it is often referred to as walking the wheel of life
(Samsara) It is the process of being born over and over again in differnt times and different situations,possibly for many thousands
times.As long as there is delusion,,greed ,and aversion ,and as long as passions are not extinguished,we generate karma.Because we evevtually accumulate unmaterialised karna in this or in a past lifetime,there is a next lifetime in which the accumulated karma wiil take form.Only when all accumulated karna is realised and the generation of new karma is calmed,one can enter the stream that leads to NIRVANA.
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Text taken from The Big Vue.

Yesterday we saw part of the text on Rebirth,todaywe shall close the subject.

This process continues until Nirvana is reached ,which signifies the cessation of rebirth and,hence suffering.

It is notable that this also entails the avoidance of "good karma".Once tge stream that leads to Nirvana is entered,creating wholesome karma is not an object anymore.Although wholesome karma leads to entering the stream ,it does not necessarely lead to
Nirvana,only the estinguishment of all karmic forces will lead to Nirvana.

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THE NON-SELF.

taken from a document from The Big-view.

The concept of rebirth is unfamiliar to most Western people.Its
philosoical and traditional foundation is found in India where the
theory of transmigration of soulsad presumably existed long before it was written down in the Upanishads around 300 B.C.
The Buddhist cocept is subtly different frao the classical Indian understanding,because it denies the existence of a self.In Buddhism the idea of self is merely an illusion .Man wrongly identifies
perception ,consciousness,mind and body with what he calls self.In
reality there is no abidind identity that could be identified with a self, because the states of perception ,consciousness,abd mind constantly change.
That is it for today.

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text taken from the Big View.com

The body is mortal and when it dies ,counsciousness and all mental activities cease.That is why there is no no soul.The idea of a soul is simply an extention of the self.Soul is the immortal version of
the self that supposedly survives physical death.Since we know that consciousness is a function of our nervous system,it seems difficult that the conscious self survives death.Hence ,Buddhists deny the reality of both self and soul.The idea of an abididng self is deceptive ,because it is derivedfrom enlightened reasoning.The word self simply provides a reference frame for the mind-body phenomena of sentient beings.We usually identify it with our body and the steam of consciousness induced by sense perceptions and thoughts.In reality ,what we call self is neither abiding nor detached from the rest of the world and other beings.Buddhists call this the "neither self or non-self"

The next post of this thread will explain what is reborn if not the self.

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When Death my great friend, comes for our meeting,my only wish is to leave a better karma ,that the one ,this carrier received.

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Text from The Big View.

WHAT IS REBORN IF NOT THE "SELF"

If the idea of nonself sounds odd,then it must sound even more curious that non-selfcan be reborn .There is seeming contradiction between the canon of rebirth and that of the non-self which even many dedicated Buddhists find difficult to understand . The contradiction is,however ,only on the surface and can be solved if one pictures the self as the result of KARMIC formation .This can be put into less abstract words:If we imagine the world as an ocean ,we are like the ripples on the ocean .Formations like ripples and waves accur,because of wind tides, and other kinetic forces.I the Buddhist analogy ,the Universe is in motion due to karmic forces .A ripple ,a wave or a billow may seem as an individual entity for a moment ,creating the illusion that it has a self, but it is gone in the next moment.The truth is that all individuals are one.A ripple is a tempory phenomenom; it is just water in motion . We know that kinetic energy causes wave forms on a body of water and it would be ridiculous to say that A single ripple or wave hasa self.

The last part tomorrow and my comments.

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