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#807660 - 02/24/13 02:54 PM
Re: Agora of Buddhism
[Re: loongdragon]
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Parakeet
Registered: 09/21/12
Posts: 871
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Dear Lisa,
Through times the japanese,always copied the chinese.The writing,medecine,martial arts, .The only unknown part of the japanese that science still does not know the origin is their language.Japan was closed to outside civilisations for over a 1000 years. They were many tribes speaking various dialect. What is zen? You are the expert but,around 600 a.c.,a Daoist japanese monk met a chinese monk in China of the name of Chan.What ,I have been thaught,the mixing of the phylosophies gave Zen. When a neophite like me studie Zen ,he sees quite a difference,from Zen to let us say Tibetan Buddhism's way of thinking. Dear teacher,if I am wrong,please set me straight.
With respect Loong the learner
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#807811 - 02/25/13 11:28 AM
Re: Agora of Buddhism
[Re: loongdragon]
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BellaOnline Editor
Parakeet
Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 916
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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I'm sorry to hear about your hospital visit Loong, but glad that the it affirmed the power of metta and mala practice for you. I hope you are feeling better. Is this a chronic condition?
As for Confucious and Lao Tzu, yes the conflict of some aspects of their two philosophies fueled a lot of Chinese history. And I knew Chinese and Japanese customs were very entwined, but had forgotten about the Chinese feet binding. Now that I think of it though, I remember all the Chinese Empresses and their ladies did it too.
The history of Zen is very interesting. Chan (the Chinese version of Zen) developed in China as Buddhism and Taoism mixed, and then as it travelled to Japan it mixed with Shinto, the native religion there are the time, and Zen developed. There are several schools of Zen, two main ones, and they differ from each other in practice just as the 4 schools of Tibetan Buddhism do.
And you are right, Zen and Tibetan Buddhism are very different in some ways, particularly their rituals and aestehtics - Tibetan Buddhism tends to be very elaborate while Zen is very sparse. But they are both classified as Mahayana schools, because they are both grounded in the Lotus Sutra, and its teachings of mind, rather than philosophy. The idea of direct realization, and the centrality of the teacher-student relationship in bringing this about, and that this direct knowledge is the most important thing, and that anyone can achieve this, are all shared by both traditions and are Mahayana ideas. And of course the idea of the boddhisattva too.
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#807817 - 02/25/13 11:40 AM
Re: Agora of Buddhism
[Re: loongdragon]
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Parakeet
Registered: 09/21/12
Posts: 871
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Dear Lisa, I have been playing you for awhile with my choices of texts expressing my desire for you to be MY teacher.I hope you will reconsider your previous decision. I have listened to your radio interview.Liked it. What I want or more wish for is a generally Mahayana teacher,Not necessarely just Tibetan or any lineage.One that has seen me grow,understands me.I am down on one knee now  .If you rather answer through an e-mail it's ok with me. My feminine side is well developped,does not always show,That is Why I would prefer A Woman Teacher. Bowing to you an humble loong
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