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#792674 - 11/14/12 06:41 PM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Lori-Dreams]
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Wow! This thread is so long and energy packed (I used my senses to read it) that it took me over a week to complete it.

Elleise your sensing is amazing. There was almost nothing you said that did not resonate with me. The few times I was unbalanced had nothing to do, so much, with your seeing as it did with your wording/interpretation.

As seers, our interpretations are still challenged by our experiences. So, in terms of racism, I still have sensitivities based on my experiences. What we say out loud (and I too am guilty of this) can give people impressions that are swayed.

I don't even know where to begin.

Entitlements. I hope everyone here understands that entitlements have nothing to do with race. People that rely on entitlements for too long, forget that it is just a bandage for a short period of time, will have to stand up and make a way.

Obama. I think he came into office thinking that what he was planning to do, balance the racial paradigm, reach out to other nations, and stop the war on terrorism, was an honorable plan. He understood that no one man ever runs this country. He believed he could inspire people to do something bigger. He thought he could challenge the tilt and make the voices of the middle and lower class heard. What he walked into was simply bigger than what he anticipated.

Is he plotting to over take the world and crush a group of people? I don't think so (which is not anything that you have ever suggested here). But his thinking was very different than the energy of thought that has resided over the nation for centuries. For many, that could feel like doom. What it has done though, is make more people aware of politics and what is really going on.

His presence has empowered people to look at taking the reigns of their own lives. The entitlement group is about as big as the rich, 10%. People who are opposed to change because of racism is about 10%.

Fact is, at our core we are light and most of us want something better and more balanced. Many are simply not educated in the matter. So, something that looks, sounds, and operates very differently inspires the majority of us to look at things differently; to listen differently; and to operate differently. It is actually good for this country and the rest of the world.

The change was necessary to awaken the majority moreso than the minority. many people were too complacent and not listening. The presence of a different energy in power awakened their souls.

Obama is playing both sides because he really does believe that there is a balance available. Unfortunately, the game he has signed on for, does not believe, yet, in balance. When I say the game, I mean politicians within this great nation and outside of it.

The idea that our government is trying to control us is interesting to me because my spiritual notion has always been that the wealthy actually control the government and they are always using small, sneaky ways of controlling us anyway. Buzz words like "too much government" or "entitlements" or "gun control" or "health reform", are all ways to control us. They have done the research and discovered what will make us jump. The upset is that someone unlike what we are use to, has maybe learned that game.

Unfortunately, I was saddened on election night that Obama had won. While he was my choice (spiritual energy suggested we needed more of his energy to cleanse away much of what was done before) I realize he has not won. This human battle is huge and overwhelming. The President is our scapegoat for failure. I have felt that same sadness for Bush Jr., Clinton, and Carter.

In terms of racism being sited during his term in office and in the elections. I wish people would stop thinking that because they are not racist, racism is not going on. I too was blinded. I thought, because I have friends of many races and cultures, that racism only existed with a 1% in this nation. There have been many things during this President's term and candidacy that has shown me differently. I have never seen a President more disrespected than this one (Clinton runs a close 2nd).

Regardless, I believe that this forum is full of lightworkers and it is our job to witness the predictions that come through this thread and forum and send light to the capitol and around the globe. We have the power to create more positive change and sight. If we focus our energies toward greatness we can survive what is on the horizon.
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#792918 - 11/16/12 01:28 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Yvonnie-Inspired]
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Originally Posted By: Yvonnie-Inspired
The idea that our government is trying to control us is interesting to me because my spiritual notion has always been that the wealthy actually control the government and they are always using small, sneaky ways of controlling us anyway. Buzz words like "too much government" or "entitlements" or "gun control" or "health reform", are all ways to control us. They have done the research and discovered what will make us jump.


Wow, Yvonnie...:)

There were so many things I wanted to quote as being just so accurate!


I agree, the ENERGY has changed and Obama, taking over the world, just no. He doesn't have that, well, type of, drill, (scraping for right word) going on.

He's a guy, just a guy. You could put me in a room and many a men could/would think along the very same lines as he.

Obama, feels, to me, like the Mcdonald's, "Big-mac," commercials.

It looks good, at the right time may even sound good, but leaving the house, going after one, getting to the processing center and if you cared to, taking a peak behind the counter, it's not quite like the commercial we hoped for which inspired the effort to get one.

Personally, I can't really think of a president that inspired me. I remember Reagan years only because our household had more money during his election, and my parents seemed more relaxed.

As race goes...growing up we were poor. I was made fun of, literally, daily, bullied, beaten up, spit on, not just by one person, but the entire classroom I could never get away from, because we all went on to the next grade level together.

Reason being, we were Polish, poor and grandparents, immigrants. Everyone else, was "old money" I think you call it.

It's in the past though and maybe we have cyber bullying but nothing so much like that anymore. to me every race has a pained history. This is the first time I've detailed mine.

What's more important, feels, that we're ALL Humanity, though. Controlling, has the ability to take that from us. Before you know it you don't trust anybody, don't or can't say what you mean and then become pitted against one another.

But there's really, no feeling like when you make Soul-to-Soul contact with another human being. Validated, eye contact, a smile...racism, is a ploy and you're right, the more people depend on entitlements and the less they do for themselves, it's not so far off that it ends up badly for those people.

I don't feel much energy w/Obama at all these days, but actaully more maybe with U.N? I don't even know what they do, but it does feel like a one-world gov and a small group of people with some type of busniness running behind them, but they do the speaking.

What people NEED, desperately need to remember, is, once everything you rely on (that sustains you) comes by one house alone, whichever house those needs happen to run through; are met by, will infact, make not only THE general rules by which they get there, but what you get, when you get it and many of the rules surrounding basic livelihoods as well!

In a controlled environment, I wouldn't be able to discuss those photos of myself. It would stir a panic, pandemic, epidemic...some type of "ic," lol.

One hospital, 2 major pesticide companies, 3 onsite investigators, an Inspector, Dr., RN, RA, "Have never seen anything like this before."

This is Real Time, and the specimens have been sent off to a certain lab, saving some for myself.

I can tell you anything you can't find about these bugs (mites) out there in the open right now because I'm not regulated.

Otherwise, I'd have to sugar coat it or wait for some A.O.K from, a scientist, his higher up, their higher up, etc. etc.

What I feel it is is a mutation of the bed-bug. So, like a tier, Bed-bug, Bat-bug, bird-mite.

We'll have to wait and see. What stand out is the intelligence behind these mites. They communicate w/each other and can survive just about anything.


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#793164 - 11/18/12 05:26 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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O.k. I have to start out (maybe not) but the "race" thing dying off., etc.

I align experience (vibrations) with message (vibrations).

The reason I never became involved or pre-occupied w/race is that I already live in the "Utopia" where everyone is the same. I don't see color, race, country, just:

Together WE stand!

If/WHEN - always, when...I have a reaction it's either I'm in a bad mood, I myself am preocupied with a flash or vision or you know??? You just might stink as far as company goes or I'm just not "on-board."

Like "Mother Earth" I Truth-Eyes, have no favorites, nor feel the need to distract people with whatever it was I personally went through.

However, we are, I feel, getting closer...to this thing that's almost like a build up that bursts...but it's not the end-all-BE-all that some people may make it out to be.

WHAT I'D LIKE PEOPLE TO CONSIDER IS:

NOT the end of the world, but a changing one and we just happen to be in the middle of such a mark in history...

The "change" isn't what you think it is, nor I...but the "FEELING" to look out for, the common enemy by name rather:

GREED
That's it. It's been and is the only enemy, regardless of race, party, PC or not.

I've lived both "on the system" and off.

I've lived among immigrants recently (outside of my grandmother) and off (BTW it's Polish, Russian and Cherokee) I'm a mut.

Still, It's like brain matter is just mush...and the littlest thing sets a person off and yes, there's more, they are ALL feeling, thinking, they're special sure, but more so pretty much taking whatever they can and either going back or sending it back to their origins.

If you can set yourself aside from race or color of your skin I'd have you ask first - which isle whould you prefer to be on?

One with their hands out or ones with shovel in hand?

After that, here in the immediate future, where we were flooding with Survival techniques etc.

I'd like, just in general, if I could, help and have people, no matter what, have the means or be able to operate, on their own w/ I guess you call them "rations," but just have canned goods, stock (as in soup), SEALED oats, flour and such to get you through 1-3 months and DON'T...Do NOT forget (more than just one canister) salt...it will act as a tool box.





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#794694 - 11/30/12 02:13 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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This is going to be painful...mostly to me as I really don't care (about the election).

So why post? Because for the love of Christ it WON'T leave me ALONE!

So here, maybe I'll get a good night's sleep and purge!

The Election.

O.k. this for whatever reason, does not go away. The election was NOT what it seems. Truth-eyes, "Trust not your eyes and ears but go forth in light..."

What came to me then and currently will not leave me alone...the election isn't or wasn't, what it seems (i'm almost certain about this).

So, like it's more, the numbers were down for Obama...BIG TIME, even before the election.

There's also some sort of marital disagreement. (Again..all intuition/feelings).

The michele person doesn't want to go along, Obama understands, the election was not in his favor, but something behind him needed it to be a 2-term presidency?????

Otherwise, it wouldn't hold so much.

"Across-the-isle" I dont' know what that means...trying to bridge a gap? But anyway, that along w/"Can't we ALL just get along???" Those statements are meant to silence or get people on board.???

THIS IS A READ....(stuff you're not likely to see in the news and rightfully so) it's wierd feeling it.

I don't feel Obama didn't HAVE supporters, but I don['t feel the election is what it seems. It feels almost he feels, it's one thing to WIN an election another to be given. I'll give him credit for that...ya, that stinks.

Anyway, I feel Romney (and all I know of him is he's a business man and Mormon) had the gain and in fact...now that the election is over, Obama needs to consult Romney on just what it is America wants...not how the spin could be like he's the bigger man inviting his opponent to the table.

In the mean time, piddley attempts at gay marriage (which I'm for) and immigration (which I'm for) will serve to distract.

Try to look at these things as "commercials" Not that they aren't important, but investigate what the real issues really are.

With immigration, we/America want you, join w/you, enjoy basically the different colors of the rainbow!!

The issue (in short) it's a money builder and vote support if they don't "Remedy it" right away and it isn't the "race" of immigration or any race in general...what the REAL people are stuck on is that everyone pay their "Fair Share."

Welfare, the issue there is/feel/affirms to be should be for people who need it, not to get wealthy on and immigration, "Come on in." But, pay taxes, like everyone else.

Forget the "Dream Act" and other deflections/get Real, observe just common sense practices and don't wait for someone or some group to tell you what will be...believe it or not, we've more in common than ANY government will EVER admit! wink

P.S. Look up styles of gov. Just do. You'll save a lot of time and energy smile

That last part is REALLY important as well as getting an up to date view of racism. Understand what a "tag" is but more importantly the human Spirit, we actually like each other lovers


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#799762 - 01/09/13 12:14 PM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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With immigration, we/America want you, join w/you, enjoy basically every thing.Obama view about immigration reforms is good and surly will secure our interest.

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#800840 - 01/16/13 01:03 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: guarnad]
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Not necessarily.

You, with this administration, would be good to do your own individual homework. Meaning understanding or seeking to understand more than just what one individual might tell you or have their group of persons speak to you about in the schools or abroad.

Times as of now aren't what you see, what you get. You'll want to understand what it is you will in fact be getting wink
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#800847 - 01/16/13 01:37 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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This, is a heavily loaded topic, on so many different levels.

For now, as I try to sort into words what will best help people, seeking to join positive efforts, moving genuinely forward and not just via name, project or following "PC suit" supportiveness...etc.

Racism is a dying breed and cause. We are more akin to one another, more loving, than any "power-house" would like for a whole to be aware.

Reason being - (simple) It diffuses their efforts and order, if we're already loving one another...

I had wanted to put together a true story (minus names) to demonstrate an example or what, at least in this area chicago, (central IL) we're seeing here.

It has to do w/the struggling America and what is being taught in the name of equality and/or socialism, having left being presented as right and right being presented as left, etc.

Mind boggling as it may be - regardless of race, there are those beginning to see through the fog and mist, coming together as human beings, leaving the totem of projectile racism far behind.
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#801121 - 01/17/13 07:46 AM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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I think the economic conditions of the country will be better in near future.The reason being that the Obama is very clear about its economic policies and many other issues like immigration policies.

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#801258 - 01/17/13 09:33 PM Re: What do you see for elections/economy/environment? [Re: smitthe]
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Originally Posted By: smitthe
I think the economic conditions of the country will be better in near future.The reason being that the Obama is very clear...


Welcome Smitthe wink

I always welcome enlightened conversation regarding our political as well as economic structures of this country and the future possibilities it encompasses.

Reviewing this administration's past and current reasonings and "Executive Order" decision making, as well as passings of virtually unreadable decifering of bills by the average person, American or immigrant (being of immigration myself, this is very dear to heart) "The Obama" has been anything BUT clear in its intentions for immigrants and/or the current status of the country as it stands.

My husband's place of work, how I would love to share the real conversations he has WITH the staff, composed of immigrants, Americans and multitude of different races, and they are very wise!

I wouldn't classify them as fans either, though there are a few.

When he first began working there, the immigrants especially were a bit skiddish (??)... for lack of better word.

Like, why would a white guy want to talk to me? He, as I love pretty much everybody unless you go out of your way to be just a poor human-being.

Well now, everyone loves him there where as in the beginning they thought he was racist simply because on the surface he's white/caucasion...whatever (I'm a mut, cherokkee, polish, russian, irish white gal).

Anyway, they shared with him that's what's being taught to them AND that if you don't like Obama it's only because he's black.

Well, he proved them wrong and they now look to him to explain things that don't make sense. In return, they teach him phrases here and there of their language. He enjoys that greatly and has brought me into his work place as well.

One individual I met works here in the U.S. but sends cash back to Mexico to help his mother and grandmother. He pulled out a postcard that read..."We voted for Obama and all of the hope, but all we got was a little bit of change...(it had pennies trickling down the side)."

Not being from this country, if they get it, I'm fairly certain people within their own homeland soon will be getting it as well if they haven't already.

However, if you have specifics of what is very clear, I welcome the sharing and can pass that along to them as well. smile
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I think the economic conditions of the country will be better in near future.The reason being that the Obama is very clear about its economic policies and many other issues like immigration policies.


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