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#782363 - 09/13/12 06:30 AM Re: The Goddess [Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
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I have always admired people that are totally independent in their way of thinking and lifestyle. I sometimes think of myself as a kind of wimp because I interact with a deity, actually several of them, for support and help at times.

Karl Jung was a genius in his understanding of the human psyche and mind. In my studies he referred to some deities as archetypes. I always wanted to test out a few theories for myself about the responsiveness of deities to the human situation, you know, like, is this being actually real and if it is, is it approachable? Does it think and act anything like a human being? I think that these are fair questions.

I could not just take my families word for this, I had to see it on my own. Maybe my mind does not work like other peoples because I figured if they in fact are so lofty and unapproachable as so many have them viewed then why don't we just figure all of this out for ourselves? Why do we need them? As I have said before some have no need of them. That is perfectly acceptable to me. Maybe they know something that I don't. I just know how I am.

I have never really had the time to do a lengthy study on the subject as I am so busy. The study and research however was done automatically for me.

One day while talking to several clients I found myself being pulled down by some very negative events in their lives. Sometimes I delve deeply into the psyches of people in a very intense yet gentle and most careful therapeutic mode. Being so close can pull me in and down if I am not fully aware of myself during the sessions.

It was upon this day and after I had finished I went upstairs and allowed the negativity to peak within my mind.


The two deities that I go to mostly for help are the great Mother and Jesus Christ. Both of which have helped quite a few of my clients and most times neither were ever mentioned during any session. If the person mentions that they are religious I will attempt to interact with that deity or their ancestors.


My beliefs are personal and I respect other peoples methods of advancement however that may be. My first priority is establishing their self worth and confidence.

Please bear with me.

The day in question gave rise to my throwing my hands up in the air yelling," Do you like watching all of the suffering on this earth Mom????? Are you having a really good time watching people wrench their hearts out and then going to their graves without hope???? I do not know about you but this sucks big time to me!!!!!!. Whats with you?????"

I have that Taurus the Bull nature and a few times have rushed into the china shop and devastated half of it out of rage until I think about what I am doing.

She knows what She is doing!

After I went off on Her I foolishly yet defiantly waited for lightening or some other earth ending catastrophe to befall my rage.

None of that happened. I just felt my heart sink a little bit. I then remember thinking, Oh my God, what have I done????

I pushed my feelings away and set my thoughts on something else as I did not want to observe the resulting activities.

When I calmed down I peered back into my actions believing that She would be, if not totally P.O.d, at least saddened or aloof due to my stupidity.

None of that happened.

I asked, Are we cool? She said, You know that we are!!"
I went downstairs and cried. I did not need Karl Jung to tell me about archetypes as I then realized that She is very real. Not off in some distant star or space but right among us. I know that whatever we have been or done it is of no consequence to Her as there is plenty of room at her table always.

Paul said, To the pure all things are pure. I will have to confess that I as a man cannot always handle such continual perfect acceptance on such a deep trusting level no matter what my actions have been. I don't think that the human brain is geared so much that way. I still am getting my head around that one. I believe that this is where the spiritual mind takes over. Blessed Be

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#782511 - 09/14/12 12:24 AM Re: The Goddess [Re: ancientflaxman]
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It truly is amazing to be accepted and loved unconditionally no matter what.

The spiritual mind does take over even if we don't understand this concept. It is a component of faith. Blessed Be.
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#782817 - 09/16/12 11:00 AM Re: The Goddess [Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
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Please forgive any misspellings as I am a little weary.

I do not see many people anymore for readings or healing sessions as it frankly is a lot of work although I love working with people. In all of those years I must say that I have never run across an individual that others may have thought of as evil. I have seen many twisted souls that were involved with some hideous intents and some concsiences that seemed beyond repair but deep within I saw the "real" being. Seers-healers do not obtain their information for healing from the words of person that sits in front of them. It is the words between the words that we listen to.

It, for me, is the same case with the spirit world. In all of my years of seeing some intense spectacles in that realm I will have to say that I have never seen anything that one could call evil. There are many things that one cannot understand but that does not indicate that they are evil. Fear of the unknown is where the word "evil" has arisen.

It is now 4a.m. and any person with half a brain would be sleeping at this hour but I awoke by seeing an "apparition" if you will. I saw a shimmering being with what looked like stars all around it. I am sensitive to energies and it appeared to be female. It had a bright glow but I could not tell the actual color of it.

Bear with me please.

It looked like a picture of the Virgin Mary that I have seen once before with stars all around her. Look, I am not an expert on the subject of the Mother of Jesus and because of the churches history with regards to my family I am careful about what I observe but I am open to her if she wants to communicate. If that was her or something else I can not say for sure but it soon dissapeared. Then came the communication.

I am being as honest and forthright as I know how to be as I cannot deliver any of this information with error or misjudgement on my part.

What I was told is this:
"I am the mother of all creatures. My children are all races, colors, opinions, and religions. Some of my children have single flames and some have two burning within them." As I was hearing this I remembered what some Native Americans friends told me about their culture. "ALL of my kids are mine and NO flames will be extinguished."

I then felt one of the coldest and most staunch feelings in my gut. The thought crossed my mind about the holocaust which I have recently dealt with. Then, being a seer, I also wondered if the next group that was to be targeted as part of the "final solution" would be those with a twin flame. I have worked with people that are gay and some of them are dear dear people and are some of the most persecuted people on earth. I was as cold as ice for a few minutes.

When Mom shares with me from her heart my only option is to listen. I usually can not move.

Then I realized something. She is not under the auspices of man made religion. Mans self destructive will is of no threat to Her. She then showed me where the AIDS virus came from and why. She is not mocked or fooled. She will not be placed under the auspices of man or any other minute force of the universe.

While I see these things sometimes it is like a fire that burns but with no physical pain. It just stands me up in the corner, if you will, and shows me how naked and helpless that I and all of mankind is. I know that clothes were produced because of mankind being ashamed of his body. Anyone that knows Her is ashamed of nothing. She is the mother of all. Blessed Be


Edited by ancientflaxman (09/16/12 03:35 PM)

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#782829 - 09/16/12 01:30 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: ancientflaxman]
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Hi Dave,

Thank all that is good that you can express what is happening to you here.

I believe every word of it.

Not because I'm gullible, but because I have an affinity for the truth you bear in your bosom.

No wonder your family had to keep silent all of these centuries.

And you yourself have to be very selective of what you tell to whom.

From my understanding, Mother Mary is just one representation of The Universal Mother.

As is the case that I have solidified within my own reasoning that there is but One Father/Mother God eternally In Love Forever and each and every one of us is their offspring -- then I have come to the conclusion that made in the image and likeness there are many manifestations of that Female/Male God and each is at their own level of understanding of who and what we are.

AIDS is a great debate.

It could either be biological warfare, one of the seven last plagues, or nature's rebellion against the homosexual act.

dunno.

I myself have been very androgynous since I was a child.

'bout when I was 15, I came to the conclusion that I have the body and the soul of a man, but the heart and the mind of a woman.

Go figure.

When disco was big, I was in because it applauded the graceful dancing man.

We know how long that lasted.

Then hard rock crushed that !

I partied with the gays, and like you said, many of them are very honest, decent, sweet and kind souls.

In all honesty, I have seen more 'Christian' acts done through this group than any other !

In my estimation, there are about seven 'types' of gays, and only two of them will acknowledge that you're straight.

But, that was my experience, others' mileage will vary. <...to try and keep up with the young folks in that last expression>.

Now, the persecution you are experiencing is the all out war against the human soul.

Years later, I understood that my androgyny was acquired through my previous incarnations' dedication to truth.

The Culture of The Mother is being attacked.

Remember, Jesus himself was accused of being gay because of the depth of His Love.

Also, accused of black magic, which is rampant now, and actually does work... unfortunately.

Anyway, being a seer is a blessing and a curse.

I'm very proud of you dave, that you are able to function, make a living, have raised a family without being burned at the stake for your knowledge and understanding.

Blessed Be.

-- Burt B.



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#782836 - 09/16/12 02:52 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: ancientflaxman]
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I'm under the impression that 'evil' is simply the energy veil that obscures the living 'SUN' of God from within your own heart!


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#782849 - 09/16/12 04:40 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
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Burt, What can I say but that I am in AWE at your words. She speaks through many people.

Men and women that do not know the feminine side of their being are in torment as we were all born 50% of man and 50% of woman despite what the chromosome count may reveal on a chart somewhere.. Abuse will be eliminated when we accept every side of our human experience.

Those that suppress the female or the male have chosen that course in error. No wonder some of our kids end their own lives. I have talked with some of these kids. What is wrong with us??? How far will we go to destroy everything else that we cannot hammer into submission????

I meet that spirit face to face and believe me it is a spirit. When I try to help an abuse victim I see that sucker head on and he lurks away like the self righteous lying little stit that he is. Oops I misspelled that.

Do you think that when someone comes to me for help that I give a krapp about what color their skin is, their religion or sexual preference?? They ALL belong to Her as well a the birds, the animals, and every creature that has ever been..

Thanks again for you incredible inspiration Burt, I could not read it all without clouding up big time. Bless you brother!!! ,,,,dave

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#782851 - 09/16/12 05:39 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
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Thank You Beloved Brother Dave !

I may have failed in this life, as every indication is that I've chosen a path of self destruction.

Yet, I still hold fast to that which is good.

I Am so grateful that you have and maintain contact.

I have suppressed mine with the doctor prescribed psychotropics.

My physical 'brother' put me in jail on false pretenses.

And my family was ripped apart by a power struggle to see who could get the most material things before our parents died.

Yea...

Classic Cain and Able.

I'm dysfunctional.

I smoke cigarettes heavily, never married.. just co-habitate and childless.

Been through so many mental institutions -- I heard both the voice of God audibly and the adversary.

And jail on minor charges that it is no longer in doubt that it is impossible for me to serve in the outside world.

Yet, her truth will not be denied.

She is alive and well.

This body is broken and fading.

Yet, knowledge of her existence is so joyous as to make me faint.

We fight not people, but principles -- ignorance in particular.

The ancient unadulterated religions and mystery schools and the cult of the mother have been so perverted that as soon as you carry that off-world light they will try to murder you.

Yeah... they tried 3 times... got real close too...

Consummate Black Magicians have been plowing civilization after civilization into the ground and causing destruction, mayhem, horror and violence for 100's of thousands of years upon this dark star.

Try not to let the records of the Holocaust disturb you.

If you are open to it, here is a dialogue between a little Russian boy who was in the midst of the horror as he spoke with Mother Mary as the representative of The Eternal Mother:

The question arose in my heart as to what is meekness; and as I pondered long and hard upon it, it came to pass that I perceived that the meek were not without strength. For it was given unto them to inherit the earth, <1> and I knew that those to whom God gave the gift of inheritance would necessarily be strong.

I gazed upon the pageant of man and I saw that in metaphor, dispensing with time and space, we could see all men as coming forth from the sun of God�s love, a vast parade, a pageant, a drama so full of poignant memories�some benign, some which revealed much suffering�that I pondered upon this also. I came to realize that one�s country had meaning; for after all, the segmentation of men and women into nations is symbolical of a certain divine intent.

The classification of peoples is also the creation of many sheepfolds. But I understood that the Master of masters desired one sheepfold. <2> If this could not come all at once but little by little, then men would be able to externalize the knowledge of science, the knowledge of genetics, the knowledge of humanity, the knowledge of Life, the knowledge of Spirit, the knowledge of universal lore. All of the multitude of components that make up the conglomerate creation must be assembled in consciousness. That they exist in substance is not enough, for each must run the fingers of his mind over the anomalies of manifestation.

O Mother Russia, thou art the mother of so many souls, even as China and the masses thereof; and you have brought into manifestation many children. Their Slavic ways are not always the ways of emancipation. Searchers for liberty are they; and the icons on the walls, together with the bubbling pots, the tea, the cakes, the peasants, the struggle, the mighty life waves�all compose a vast evolution which seeks for liberty and yet creates bondage.

I saw this great manifestation as a child; and as I gazed upon it, I froze in the wonder of it all and my mind refused to accept it. I cast aside reason as to the winds, and I opened my heart to the simple oneness of God, and I spake unto Him. I communed with Him who is beyond the stars and I said unto Him:

�O Lord, there is too much in manifestation; I cannot grasp it all. Come unto me and help me, for the world is a wilderness peopled with dark shapes and distortions. And I must of necessity have Thy power and Thy glory; for surely Thou who hast created all this�Thou who hast an Eye to see it and behold it�surely Thy Mind can comprehend it if mine cannot.�

As I spake unto Him, I cast myself upon Him; and as a child I received an answer: A very beautiful Being of Light was sent to me in my room. This beautiful Being of Light was he who is known to you as Archangel Gabriel. He came unto me and he said:



�Hail, Igor! God has heard thy prayer and He has sent me unto thee. Know then that I will guide thee throughout thy life and I will be to thee a friend.

�I will seek to produce in thee the manifestation of the wonderful consciousness of Jesus which his Mother Mary held for him, and I will be as a father unto thee and as a mother. And thy troubled heart will be comforted this day. Thou shalt find that God will open up understanding unto thee and little by little impart unto thee His grace.

�And thou shalt no longer be just as a peasant boy called Igor, but thou shalt be a son of the Most High God; for in thee God has generated a Flame this day. It is the Flame of thy I AM Presence, the Flame of thy being that appeared to Moses in the burning bush. <3> And God is no respecter of men�s persons, but in every age and time listens to the heart calls of the children of men. Know then that God hath heard thy call and I AM sent to do His will.�







With that moment Archangel Gabriel and I became fast friends, and there were many visitations from him from time to time. I was taken by him out of the body even during the night hours, and I communed with many of the members of the Brotherhood throughout the world in the great temples of Light. But as I passed over the cities of Moscow and Kiev and many of the other great cities of Russia, the plain country, and the mountains, my heart was always touched with the ruggedness of the land and with the great struggle in the hearts of the people; and I felt as though they were a sleeping giant that one day would awaken and trouble the peoples of the world.

When we were aware of the coming destruction of the czar and his family and we realized that the red dragon would march across the nation, I spent hours upon my knees imploring God to provide some measure of assistance. I remember then that one evening, a very special evening, there came to me a manifestation of the beautiful Lady of F�tima. She came to me and she discussed also the terror of the red dragon. She said that the world would be viciously troubled by it and that only by a great struggle and repudiation of this fraudulent desecration of the Light would mankind ever be able to roll back the hordes of materialistic darkness and shadow.

I remember that I clutched her robe in my hands; and as Jacob wrestled with the Angel, <4> I would not let her go. I remember that she lingered with me for many an hour beyond her intent and I said:

�O Mother of God, will you help me to help these people? I cannot bear it; I cannot bear the bloodshed, the ideas of terror, and the awful grasping in the hearts of these people. I ask you to help me. What can I do? I will give my life if it will save these people.� She patted me gently on the head and said:

�Igor, there have been others before you who have offered their lives to God to assuage the awful torment of material life. But there are karmic circumstances and situations beyond mortal control, even beyond the control of God; for He has put His laws into operation and entrusted certain dominions to lesser forms of consciousness, and they have free will. By the misuse of their free will, they have wrought all this destruction; and only when their free will turns to seek the things of the Spirit will they truly make the world to be free.�

I accepted her love and her wisdom and my heart was comforted, but the terror burned on. Throughout my life as I sought to be a pilgrim in a strange country, I aspired to attain something higher that I might free men. By and by, through the solemn ritual of the sacred mantra of my devotion toward God and through my one-pointedness, it came to pass that I was finally made ready for the moment of my ascension. And when it was given to me, it was not with mortal witnesses. I went up alone but quickly found that I was not alone, for around me were many bright Beings; and I knew that at last I had gone Home.

Beloved ones, the Messenger thought that I would tell you my name and he paused, hoping that I would; and I think that I shall reveal it in some future time. I prefer for the moment to remain one whom you call the Unknown Master. I want you to have my feeling of devotion to world good, to the plan of God. And thus, I have brought you this day not so much my wisdom as my feeling, my devotion, my love for God, who has made all things so lovely and so well.

If you choose to accept me and to understand my devotion, if you choose to make it a part of your life, I AM certain that it will please God. For then I know that sacrifices will not be so hard for thee. You will understand, one and all, that your Divine Presence is your eternal Home, even as it was the Source of your Life.

Peace be with you.



1. 1 Thess. 5:2.

2. Col. 1:15-16.

3. Acts 9:5.

4. Luke 1:78.

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#782855 - 09/16/12 06:06 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: ancientflaxman]
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Hypatia

"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing. The child-mind accepts and believes them, and only through great pain and perhaps tragedy can he be in after-years relieved of them. In fact, men will fight for a superstition quite as quickly as for a living truth - often more so, since a superstition is so intangible you can not get at it to refute it, but truth is a point of view, and so is changeable."
� Hypatia

Hypatia

According to the Suda lexicon, Hypatia wrote commentaries on the Arithmetica of Diophantus of Alexandria, on the Conics of Apollonius of Perga, and on the astronomical canon of Ptolemy.

These works are 'lost', but their titles, combined with the letters of Synesius of Cyrene (afterward Bishop of Ptolemais) who consulted her about the construction of an astrolabe and a hydroscope, indicate that she devoted herself particularly to astronomy and mathematics.

Of course, she may not have been a virgin and therefore unlike Empress Pulcheria, was not made a saint.



A rather different woman to the Empress Pulcheria lived and died in Alexandria. Hypatia was the daughter of Theon, the astronomer, and she inherited her father'sintellectual gifts. Rising to become head of the Neoplatonist School of Philosophy her fame attracted students (including Christian theologians!) from across the Mediterranean � "as many saw her as one of the masters in communication"

Hypatia was much respected by the governor Orestes, who it seems consulted her even on matters of civil administration � "deeming her one of the masters in public administration."

Cyril was incensed that Hypatia's reputation and talents were giving the cause of paganism a dangerous prestige, and thereby preventing the 'progress of the Faith'. It rankled deeply that she enjoyed a close friendship with the prefect, and the scurrilous bishop likened the relationship of Hypatia and Orestes to that of Cleopatra and Mark Antony. 'If she could,' he ventured, 'she would set up an Egyptian Empire!' From his pulpit Cyril inveighed against the harlot and, in response to his call, more fanatics swarmed in from the desert.

Murder of Hypatia

Hypatia was set upon by the mobsters as she was going in her carriage from her lecture-hall to her home. She was dragged to a nearby church where mob-rule took control. Stripped, beaten and hacked to pieces her dismembered body was burned to hide all traces of the crime.

The year was 415. A distressed Orestes, officially still in charge of the province, ordered the execution of Hierax, a Christian monk, for complicity in the murder but within days Orestes himself was murdered. The triumphant Bishop Cyril let it be known that "Hypatia had gone to Athens", that there had been no mob, no tragedy and that the prefect had resigned and fled. The expulsion of the Jews continued and the Bishop himself nominated a successor to Orestes. From Pulcheria Cyril elicited a new decree, which raised the number of his personal parabalani mobsters from 500 to 600.

Religious tyranny had enthroned itself in the erstwhile world-capital of intellectualism.

Decline of Alexandria

Following the murder of Hypatia, scholars began to leave the city. Her death marked the beginning of the decline of Alexandria as a major centre of ancient learning, indeed as a city of any consequence at all. The new archbishop purged his realm of the scholars, poets, and philosophers who had built the metropolis and who still cherished a passionate regard for the culture and civilization of the pagan world.

By the Middle Ages, 'Alexandria' would occupy little more than the spar of land leading from the city proper to the famous lighthouse.

But thanks to Cyril, dogmatism as a police system reigned supreme. For more than a decade Cyril built up his power base within Alexandria and the lands of Upper Egypt and then he cast his ambitious eyes further a field. His next 'intellectual' challenge came from the second city of the east � Antioch.

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#782899 - 09/17/12 03:26 AM Re: The Goddess [Re: Burt B.]
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Dave and Burt.....thank you for sharing your experiences, and for supporting each other here. It is wonderful to see.

I too have found that gay people are some of the sweetest and kindest souls. I really enjoy chatting with these great people, and some of them I am lucky to call my friends.

The Mother cares for all of Her children, and She is a great teacher if we would just open our spiritual eyes and ears to Her message of love. Blessed Be.
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#783167 - 09/18/12 08:15 PM Re: The Goddess [Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
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When any 'authority" tells me that I cannot do or believe a certain tenant of certain areas of life I will go within to find the whole "scoop"..

A little girl that was a friend of my daughter years ago told me very sweetly and innocently about the pentecostal gifts of the spirit. We were all going to a particular church that would shunn you if you engaged in such "evil" yet she, despite the possibility of being found out, risked everything to witness this to myself.. I went to the church authority which was a very educated Doctor within our ranks solely for the purpose of discussing their views on the subject. I told them that my Grandfather was a tongue talker as well as some in my family long before the street Azuza was ever named. I of course protected the name of the little angel that helped me to see our Creator in a better light.

What a howling mistake my visit was. The doctor, DD talked to the pastor and a few other upper church members and they wanted to have another meeting with me. I talked to the little girl about it and we both agreed that I cannot go to that meeting.

Please understand that I am not trying to push anything on anyone, just share a beautiful experience.

In earlier years I asked my Granddad about the gifts of the Holy Ghost and He would smile and gladly share what he knew. "What is with this speaking in tongues stuff?" I asked him.
He would say things like," Isn't it beautiful" even without him having full knowledge of my experience with it. The man just had a faith that was as bright as the sun and innocently believed that all of creation shared his delight in it. I could not argue with that much light.

Getting back to my sequence of events that I usually manage to disrupt during posting.

I told great Mom and I told Jesus that if there is another dimension to the spiritual experience that will lighten my load I have to have it. Nothing in my life happens in my order, it happens as it does.

I was out in the barn laying new straw for our "hay burners" horses. I laid down on the straw spread eagle and as I laid there the horses looked at me like," This is our house."

As I lay there in relaxation it was like a little bubble rose to the top of my throat and tongue and out came a few sounds that I did not understand. The only languages that I have ever spoken were English, German, and the occasional pig latin that my friends and I used to talk, LOL

As it continued it began to sound like what I would consider to be Polynesian or some such language.

I am not just a spirit, Christian, great Mother, and philoSophia head, I am also a science head. If anything cannot be proven empirically I have little use for it. If in the spiritual world I cannot repeat an end result by applying a certain action even though slightly varied yet within the same parameters, I must discard the study. I said to myself,"I will keep this if I can prove its authenticity by repetition.

I visited a church group that believed in these gifts.I knew a few of these fellas. They asked me to attend a mens retreat way off in the woods by their church camp. We were gone for three days. We ate or drank nothing but just meditated and prayed for that entire time. Then we stood up and joined hands in a circle. I thought about speaking my thoughts on how very enriching that this experience was for me but instead out came a language that was consistent, uniform, and lasted for probably a minute or so. It seemed like it would never end. I opened my eyes and we all were looking at each other. Then immediately to my right the man begin to interpret in English what was given. It was so powerful that my knees felt weak. Then to his right the next man spoke and continued the intrepretation in English, then the man to his right until the last man spoke. This will sound crazy but we found ourselves no longer in the physical realm. No-one wanted to go home. Some wept, some just praised God verbally and some just stood in total peace.

When I arrive home I told my family about our experience and they were "wide eyed" at it.

I then told the forces that be that if this is real this will not just be a one or two time experience but it will continue. That to me is empirical evidence, a provable fact that shows unquestionable results based upon repetition of input and repetitive similar end result.

I know that this is lengthy but please allow me to continue.

A few of my friends attended a camp meeting in which there was a Buddhist lady that came down to the altar during what they used to refer to as an "altar call." She spoke hardly any English but they knew that she was very troubled about something and that she was possibly reaching out for help.

I have Buddhist friends that are very secure within their philosophy but this lady was still in her search for truth and her path.

As they were all praying one of my friends begin speaking some language that he did not know. When he was done he saw that the lady was crying. She told him even in very broken English that Jesus spoke to her and gave her what she has been seeking. These kids were ecstatic about telling the rest of us what had happened when they came home.

I asked a full gospel pastor friend of mine if he needed a little help in his church, maybe playing piano, or taking the offering or something but he asked me to speak. I gave my testimony, granted, the witchcraft that I knew NEVER entered into what I said in front of them but the rest was good enough for me to help him a few more times.

Probably the third time that I received proof that this experience was real is when I spoke and just allowed the Holy Spirit to guide my words. No script, no notes, nothing memorized, just "allowed." I saw a lady healed of a permanent disability completely during the meeting. I saw this with my own eyes.

I needed no more proof that this experience was concreted indelibly into my mind.

This experience is not believed by a multitude of folks today, not even some Pentecostals and that is jake with me. I just needed to share some supernatural experiences that many believe are foolish. I speak in that "foolish" language a little bit every day. Thanks for taking the time to read this. dave

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