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#771021 - 07/02/12 08:07 PM
Re: Tipping When You Are Poor
[Re: Jilly]
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Gecko
Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 403
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In the U.S., standard restaurant tip is 15%. Knock off the last digit and add half of that amount to that amount. (These days, although it burns me, it is considered proper to include tax in calculating tip).
One tips on the amount, that's just how it is. There has to be some method for calculating tips. We simply can't estimate the labor differential involved in every meal. Do you really want to remember to pay extra because you dropped your fork and thus made more work for the serveer?
Things have changed for me. I am no longer a bottom rung wage earner. I'm not upper-middle class, but I do alright for myself. I've also become lazier and therefore, I eat out very often.
I hardly ever get poor service. Barely ever. Can't remember any instance off the top of my head. Mostly it is ordinary, adequate service and I give an ordinary, adequate tip. So you had to ask twice for a second glass of water. Even giving a 10% tip is a 33% reduction in pay to server. Pretty stiff hit for being late with a glass of water..
For those who can't seem to bring along money to pay the tip, try asking management if you can't put tip on the card. There really should be no reason you can't. They are accepting the card for payment.
How about if you didn't have the card and you couldn't get to ATM for cash to pay for meal - would you still go out? If you don't have enopugh money, you don't have enough money.
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#771251 - 07/03/12 04:49 PM
Re: Tipping When You Are Poor
[Re: Jilly]
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Gecko
Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 403
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"I feel a tip should be something left for service above and beyond"
This may be your feeling, but if you live in the U.S., you are mistaken.
In the U.S. tipping a restaurant server for ordinary service is a given. It is how things are done. It is the accepted social convention.
Sez who, you ask. The society you live in sez. With the internet, one doesn't even have to wait for a response from Dear Abby to find the answer to this question.
When I'm hot and tired, I might feel I have just as much right to my bus seat as the elderly person who just boarded (more in fact since I am sitting down, it's my seat), but social convention, that is to say accepted behavior in the society in which I live, mandates that I offer my seat to that person. This is not the rule in all societies, but it is in 20th century U.S.
If you want to be an iconoclast, feel free - but do it at your own expense, not another's.
(Of course I don't mean "you" personally - anyone who believes tipping is only for performance 'above and beyond' is incorrect.)
I was at another website where folks were discussing 'How do you define gourmet?'. Prevalent among responses was the phrase "By my definition". What?
I'm sorry, we don't each get our own definition of a word.
This is and should be more strictly applied than social conventions, but the principle is the same. What we "feel" something "should be" doesn't have any bearing on what that something is.
Edited by FrankJBN (07/03/12 04:59 PM)
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