 |
 |
 |
 |
|
We take forum safety very seriously here at BellaOnline. Please be sure to read through our Forum Guidelines. Let us know if you have any questions or comments!
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
#731590 - 12/16/11 09:53 PM
Re: The Goddess
[Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
|
Gecko
Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 782
Loc: in the middle of Minnesota
|
I accept the hugs, thank you Phyllis!!! The problems is not with my two dying friends, it is within me. Old order witchcraft has taught me that I am not, and never have been. I totally accept that becuase I understand it. Maybe my problem, as I began to discover while reading Burts post, is that I have not truly let ALL of me go.
I know that when we know that we have never been here and can accept that fact in fullness, that we become the "all in all." We are born into duality and some of us come to the knowledge during our lifetime that we have returned home to the eternal. We are sown into corruption and rise to incorruptability. These things can be very hard to understand but it is we that go through it that many times have the most difficulty with it. I was taught that our life comes not from the visible but from the invisible. It is the unseen things that give life. This body is a seen thing. It is a creation and as with all creation it will have an end.
What has already been established from before the foundation of the earth is what will be long thereafter. As I know that the body leaves here, yet while in this physical lifetime, I also know that we intregrate into what has been established since forever. 10,000 words do not do this knowledge justice and it cannot be believed until one has seen it. It is usually not possible for the "rational" mind of man to comprehend the totality of this, just as it has been with mine, but it is nevertheless a reality in some circles. I do not blame anyone who says that this is total krapp. I would say the very same thing except for the fact that I have had to go through it and survived. Now I would not have it any other way. No more tears, sorrow, doubt, fear, life/death anguish. Its over and yet it is eternal.
The ones that have had to proceed in this mode become eternal. They realize that they are not and have never been, yet they become the great I AM. Even those two words man has attempted to define or clarify and so has lost much of its meaning. My family told me to say nothing of this for many years because no-on else could understand and they would even reach a point of being offended even towards violence. I am sorry but I can no longer believe that. People are not stupid and even though many cannot see clearly into a thing, their inner being can see it. Because it will quicken in some it is like planting a seed. Even though it has to break through the hard ground, must endure a lack of rain at times, and even nutrition, it is able to arise stronger and more enduring than what comes easy for some others.
If this is as clear as mud I am sorry. The possibilities however for us all to become the eternal, yet while in this lifetime, is readily available to us. Don't worry about understanding any of this, just hear the words and form no opinions about it quickly. Thanks again you guys!!! Never would I have dreamed that I could speak with such freedom to others not of my blood family. Encapsulated within this comes all healing on every level and restoration of the breach between people and mankind and the cosmos.
In summary I see that my holding on to this physical realm of illusion in any wise has prevented me from totally entering into the realm of the unspoken and non-geographical eternal. Thank you guys for your help!!!
Burt, you believed them when they said that you had a problem. The only problem with you is them. There is nothing wrong with your mind dude!!!!! your brother , dave
Edited by ancientflaxman (12/16/11 09:56 PM)
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
#731615 - 12/17/11 12:11 AM
Re: The Goddess
[Re: ancientflaxman]
|
Chipmunk
Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 1546
|
I accept the hugs, thank you Phyllis!!! The problems is not with my two dying friends, it is within me. Old order witchcraft has taught me that I am not,
You are not your physical body, you are not your outer reasoning mind -- you are not your emotions -- these are just a grid which you are using. You do have a unique human spirit and a unique identity as a flame spirit conceived and birthed by the mind of God
and never have been.
You are an idea in the mind of God and as far as the Father and Mother God are concerned, you never fell.
I totally accept that becuase I understand it. Maybe my problem, as I began to discover while reading Burts post, is that I have not truly let ALL of me go.
The form and the formless must become congruent for God to incarnate in the flesh Emmanuel -- God with us in the flesh as Dave. Mother has formed the physical body and Father is your spirit which animates the form. The spirit does the healing, but requires the form to make it meaningful to life evolving here.
I know that when we know that we have never been here
With all honest and deepest love and respect for the teachings you have come up in may I be so bold as to tweak that slightly to: We have always been and will always be we have never been born beginning and end are dreams we are without father and mother and will continue to always be. blessed be I AM
and can accept that fact in fullness, that we become the "all in all." We are born into duality and some of us come to the knowledge during our lifetime that we have returned home to the eternal. We are sown into corruption and rise to incorruptability. These things can be very hard to understand but it is we that go through it that many times have the most difficulty with it. I was taught that our life comes not from the visible but from the invisible. It is the unseen things that give life. This body is a seen thing. It is a creation and as with all creation it will have an end.
What has already been established from before the foundation of the earth is what will be long thereafter. As I know that the body leaves here, yet while in this physical lifetime, I also know that we intregrate into what has been established since forever. 10,000 words do not do this knowledge justice and it cannot be believed until one has seen it. It is usually not possible for the "rational" mind of man to comprehend the totality of this, just as it has been with mine, but it is nevertheless a reality in some circles. I do not blame anyone who says that this is total krapp. I would say the very same thing except for the fact that I have had to go through it and survived. Now I would not have it any other way. No more tears, sorrow, doubt, fear, life/death anguish. Its over and yet it is eternal.
I have also, this is why I ended up in insane asylums -- therefore we can live in heaven right now while still on earth.
The ones that have had to proceed in this mode become eternal. They realize that they are not and have never been, yet they become the great I AM.
The human ego that thinks it is separate from the I AM is what has never been and never will be -- I die daily to my lower self who thinks it is separate from God and I AM Birthed each day to the fact that I AM God and always have been. Yet, as the offspring of God I must one day grow-up and become a full-fledged Creator in my own domain I'm already a co-creator and have created my own suffering yet until I can be trusted to create in perfection I will not be given the keys to the infinite power, infinite wisdom and infinite love -- this is out of mercy -- what would the karma be if I got upset with someone in a solar system and decided to destroy it ?? The only thing that can be destroyed is imperfection.
Even those two words man has attempted to define or clarify and so has lost much of its meaning. My family told me to say nothing of this for many years because no-on else could understand and they would even reach a point of being offended even towards violence. I am sorry but I can no longer believe that. People are not stupid and even though many cannot see clearly into a thing, their inner being can see it. Because it will quicken in some it is like planting a seed. Even though it has to break through the hard ground, must endure a lack of rain at times, and even nutrition, it is able to arise stronger and more enduring than what comes easy for some others.
If this is as clear as mud I am sorry. The possibilities however for us all to become the eternal, yet while in this lifetime, is readily available to us. Don't worry about understanding any of this, just hear the words and form no opinions about it quickly. Thanks again you guys!!! Never would I have dreamed that I could speak with such freedom to others not of my blood family. Encapsulated within this comes all healing on every level and restoration of the breach between people and mankind and the cosmos.
In summary I see that my holding on to this physical realm of illusion in any wise has prevented me from totally entering into the realm of the unspoken and non-geographical eternal.
Thank you guys for your help!!!
Burt, you believed them when they said that you had a problem. The only problem with you is them. There is nothing wrong with your mind dude!!!!! your brother , dave
Thank You Dave -- I have found my true family and it is here.
I AM Above the I AM that is below in physical form. Therefore, I AM THAT I AM -- Man and Woman are Gods and Goddesses all sons and daughters of the Most High God -- Nothing in heaven, earth or hell -- the things that have been nor the things that shall be can ever tear us away from that Love of God for himself which is in each of us.
The Bible states that man cannot see God and live. What it does not record... but is recorded in akasha is the finishing of that statement -- Man cannot see God and live as man anymore. Then he must live as God.
If any or each of us could acquire the skill of clearly reading the life record of Dave's friends then we could clearly see what has caused the dis-ease 10 years ago or 10,000 year ago -- Like Edgar Cayce had that gift. Take heart. In the future maybe 200 years from now, there should be instruments that will be able to assess the human aura and pin-point the cause and effect of said illness. However the cause, effect, record and memory can be only be transmuted entirely by the use of the violet flame introduced by Saint Germain through Edna and Guy Ballard via the I AM Movement in the 1930's and subsequently moved forward by Mark L. and Elizabeth Clare Prophet in recent times. The I AM is the key.. It is the name of God and can be used in a spiritually scientific manner. Yes, this teaching has been violently opposed.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
#731617 - 12/17/11 12:22 AM
Re: The Goddess
[Re: Linda, Philosophy Editor]
|
BellaOnline Editor
Highest Posting Power Known to Humanity
Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 17626
Loc: Reno, NV
|
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
#731621 - 12/17/11 12:35 AM
Re: The Goddess
[Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
|
Chipmunk
Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 1546
|
Easier read:
ancientflaxman said, " I accept the hugs, thank you Phyllis!!! The problems is not with my two dying friends, it is within me. Old order witchcraft has taught me that I am not,
You are not your physical body, you are not your outer reasoning mind -- you are not your emotions -- these are just a grid which you are using. You do have a unique human spirit and a unique identity as a flame spirit conceived and birthed by the mind of God
and never have been.
You are an idea in the mind of God and as far as the Father and Mother God are concerned, you never fell.
I totally accept that becuase I understand it. Maybe my problem, as I began to discover while reading Burts post, is that I have not truly let ALL of me go.
The form and the formless must become congruent for God to incarnate in the flesh Emmanuel -- God with us in the flesh as Dave. Mother has formed the physical body and Father is your spirit which animates the form. The spirit does the healing, but requires the form to make it meaningful to life evolving here.
I know that when we know that we have never been here
With all honest and deepest love and respect for the teachings you have come up in may I be so bold as to tweak that slightly to: We have always been and will always be we have never been born beginning and end are dreams we are without father and mother and will continue to always be. blessed be I AM
and can accept that fact in fullness, that we become the "all in all." We are born into duality and some of us come to the knowledge during our lifetime that we have returned home to the eternal. We are sown into corruption and rise to incorruptability. These things can be very hard to understand but it is we that go through it that many times have the most difficulty with it. I was taught that our life comes not from the visible but from the invisible. It is the unseen things that give life. This body is a seen thing. It is a creation and as with all creation it will have an end.
What has already been established from before the foundation of the earth is what will be long thereafter. As I know that the body leaves here, yet while in this physical lifetime, I also know that we intregrate into what has been established since forever. 10,000 words do not do this knowledge justice and it cannot be believed until one has seen it. It is usually not possible for the "rational" mind of man to comprehend the totality of this, just as it has been with mine, but it is nevertheless a reality in some circles. I do not blame anyone who says that this is total krapp. I would say the very same thing except for the fact that I have had to go through it and survived. Now I would not have it any other way. No more tears, sorrow, doubt, fear, life/death anguish. Its over and yet it is eternal.
I have also, this is why I ended up in insane asylums -- therefore we can live in heaven right now while still on earth.
The ones that have had to proceed in this mode become eternal. They realize that they are not and have never been, yet they become the great I AM.
The human ego that thinks it is separate from the I AM is what has never been and never will be -- I die daily to my lower self who thinks it is separate from God and I AM Birthed each day to the fact that I AM God and always have been. Yet, as the offspring of God I must one day grow-up and become a full-fledged Creator in my own domain I'm already a co-creator and have created my own suffering yet until I can be trusted to create in perfection I will not be given the keys to the infinite power, infinite wisdom and infinite love -- this is out of mercy -- what would the karma be if I got upset with someone in a solar system and decided to destroy it ?? The only thing that can be destroyed is imperfection.
Even those two words man has attempted to define or clarify and so has lost much of its meaning. My family told me to say nothing of this for many years because no-on else could understand and they would even reach a point of being offended even towards violence. I am sorry but I can no longer believe that. People are not stupid and even though many cannot see clearly into a thing, their inner being can see it. Because it will quicken in some it is like planting a seed. Even though it has to break through the hard ground, must endure a lack of rain at times, and even nutrition, it is able to arise stronger and more enduring than what comes easy for some others.
If this is as clear as mud I am sorry. The possibilities however for us all to become the eternal, yet while in this lifetime, is readily available to us. Don't worry about understanding any of this, just hear the words and form no opinions about it quickly. Thanks again you guys!!! Never would I have dreamed that I could speak with such freedom to others not of my blood family. Encapsulated within this comes all healing on every level and restoration of the breach between people and mankind and the cosmos.
In summary I see that my holding on to this physical realm of illusion in any wise has prevented me from totally entering into the realm of the unspoken and non-geographical eternal.
Thank you guys for your help!!!
Burt, you believed them when they said that you had a problem. The only problem with you is them. There is nothing wrong with your mind dude!!!!! your brother , dave "
Thank You Dave -- I have found my true family and it is here.
I AM Above the I AM that is below in physical form. Therefore, I AM THAT I AM -- Man and Woman are Gods and Goddesses all sons and daughters of the Most High God -- Nothing in heaven, earth or hell -- the things that have been nor the things that shall be can ever tear us away from that Love of God for himself which is in each of us.
The Bible states that man cannot see God and live. What it does not record... but is recorded in akasha is the finishing of that statement -- Man cannot see God and live as man anymore. Then he must live as God.
If any or each of us could acquire the skill of clearly reading the life record of Dave's friends then we could clearly see what has caused the dis-ease 10 years ago or 10,000 year ago -- Like Edgar Cayce had that gift. Take heart. In the future maybe 200 years from now, there should be instruments that will be able to assess the human aura and pin-point the cause and effect of said illness. However the cause, effect, record and memory can be only be transmuted entirely by the use of the violet flame introduced by Saint Germain through Edna and Guy Ballard via the I AM Movement in the 1930's and subsequently moved forward by Mark L. and Elizabeth Clare Prophet in recent times. The I AM is the key.. It is the name of God and can be used in a spiritually scientific manner. Yes, this teaching has been violently opposed.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
#731624 - 12/17/11 12:38 AM
Re: The Goddess
[Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
|
Chipmunk
Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 1546
|
Easier read 'gain: ancientflaxman said: " Burt, If no one else on earth thinks or believes as I do I may get a little lonely but I will still be just fine. I have friends that simply believe in themselves. The majority believe in some sort of a deity. To me it is paramount that one have a belief system that sustains them throughout life. Something to rest ones mind upon. Hi Dave and Cassie67. I apologize for not getting back sooner, I had to get something to eat. I Love the Spiritual stuff sooo much that I really get annoyed when I have to take care of this lump of cement better known as the physical body so I try to keep it care to a minimum -- Thank You for your vote of confidence. I have not read Cassie67's reply yet but I will embed what first comes to mind and heart in colorI need your help here, O.K.? I have two friends that are dying. I am unable to help them. I have been able to help heal at least a few people in this life but I am being blocked from these two for some reason. My guess would be that I need to learn something that I currently don't know and I am very honestly stumped???? Many times karmic law will not allow them to be healed no matter what -- period. Even Christ Jesus himself went to different towns where people could not be healed. I don't know what techniques you use like Reiki -- so try not to feel bad.IT IS NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION OF YOU HAVING TO LEARN SOMETHING, RATHER IT IS MORE OF AN ISSUE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO LEARN FROM THEIR SUFFERING AND DYING -- DO YOUR BEST, THEN LEAVE EVERYTHING ELSE UP TO PROVIDENCE -- YOUR JUST BEING THERE WITH THEM AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND FIRM BELIEF AND PRACTICES IS ENOUGH OF A SEED TO HELP THEM IN THEIR NEXT EMBODIMENT -- I HAVE BEEN IN JAIL MANY TIMES AND FELT MY LIFE HAS BEEN A WASTE, BUT WHILE IN THERE I MAY HAVE PLANTED SEEDS OF HOPE THAT I KNOW NOT OF !! !!!You're a healer Burt. It has been proven by the understanding that you demonstrate here as there is much wisdom and power in your spirit. You many times think of yourself as lost and probably the last person to seek out for advice. I need your help with this situation that I am in and you are the only one that can help me. I need the answer to a question that has bothered me for years. It is this; We are born into this world. We learn to love others around us just by the course of life. That is all cool and everything. Then comes the curve ball. Now as we age and have learned to really love people and form many close attachments only to turn around and say good bye to them in death and then finally our own. What kind of a moronic plan is that?? Very moronic indeed until you come to the understanding that one lifetime is a very small sliver of time and space to learn our sowings and our reapings from past incarnations. We ourselfs created our circumstances from the wrinkle on our nose to our ability comprehend. We sat down with the karmic board and chose our parents and our general life plan and the challenges we would face. After incarnation the memory of that was taken from us. At age 16 I was diagnosed with bi-polar manic before it became fashionable these days, (I'm 50), in the diagnosis it says that they believe that they are on a mission from God and have special powers -- um.... every human beings life is a mission from god and everyone has special powers !! Of those that are created from above. There are those who are created from beneath. You have correctly surmised that the ones who know have use this knowledge to amass large sums of money on the back of others. J.P. Morgan has been quoted as saying, "Millionaires don't use astrology... Billionaires do" !!!! There is only one set of rules. God forbid as a child of God you begin to discover those rules... then you are a pagan witch, a heritic, in a cult and serve the devil and need to be put to death and burned at the stake !!! The ones who know first infiltrated religion as you so clearly realize in your statement about the Pharasies being alive and well today. Also, you knowing that Jesus Christ was put to death just for loving people !!! Planet Earth was a dark star and has a very old residue of superstition and fear of the new and the unknown. They also hate the Living God -- the masses do -- Have you ever run into fundamental groups that actually glorify the gore !!! Do you really think the God of Love enjoyed Jesus' suffering on the cross ??!!! What kind of mucked-up civilization do we live in ???? !!!! The Dark Ones have been in control of this planet for a long, long time... they are not going to give it up without a fight and some risk to us !! To answer your question more directly -- FRIENDSHIPS AND TRUE LOVE SHARED HERE NEVER DIES -- IT ACCRUES TO YOUR CASUAL BODY -- A STAR DIFFERITH FROM ANOTHER IN GLORY BY FREE-WILL -- THESE ARE YOUR PERSONAL TREASURES IN HEAVEN THAT DO NOT RUST !!! YOU WILL WORK WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR PARENTS AGAIN HERE OR HEREAFTER OR ON THE EARTH PLANE ON OTHER PLANETS PERHAPS OR IN ONE OF THE FATHER'S MANY MANSIONS !!! LOVE AND TRUE FRIENDSHIPS NEVER DIE EVEN IF THE BODY DOES !!!My Christian friends would say that God has an understanding that we don't and to just trust his will. Bear with me here, O.K.? That is not an answer to my question. How does a deep thinker comfort themselves in what some would call a very trite answer? The Spiritualists say that death is just a part of life. One could say that that is another trite answer as even though we don't believe in death, I still want them HERE in person!. How about the analytical thinking mind that needs some answers. You are tired of the milk sop and want the meat. I AM Your Brother and I AM My Brother's Keeper -- Keep asking -- I will do everything in my heart and mind to comfort you !!!!I don't have them. I need you to get beyond yourself and help a brother that has a need. Not even my family could tell me the answer to this. You are my brother. dave "
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
 |
 |
Want to reply? Register as a Forum Member - it's quick, free and fun!
|
|