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While some human beings starve others live life to excess. If everyone shared a little more everyone would benefit but charity seems to be a dirty word in the twenty first century.

Human beings have become like a virus on Earth.

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A bit like this quote from "The Matrix"?

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Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.


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Any form of magic or witchcraft is forbidden in every religion yet human beings would rather sell their souls to Satan than submit to God


So is Paganism not a spiritual path? The Pagans I know care deeply for the earth and all living things -not just other people. I don't worship Satan, and I don't know any Pagans that do - why I or they be interested in a thoughtform or entity from a system I do not follow?


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Hey Linda-

This is a very deep piece. I'm "almost" speechless. I might even be scared.

Wow! Where to start? Hope I am not overstepping my place here. Here goes...

I agree, sharing is something we really need to look into (even more than we do now). There are lots of people that give and share and others of us that could do more. Still, I think "free-will" is God-given and God is kind enough to answer our prayers. I think we choose to serve in various ways and everyday is a blessing no matter our financial situation. Do you think I really wrong on this?

I think many of us are a bit lost, but I rarely think that most are worshipping the devil (that could simply be me hoping that we are not devil worshipping). I also agree that there are more natural ways we can conquer most anything; the Earth is made perfect. Still, "ouch" on the devil worshipping and selling our souls to Satan. Am I just making an attempt to look through rose colored glasses on this one?

Finally, I love the world-wide peace meditation initiated by Meditation Editor, Susan Kramer.
Maybe a similar meditation can bring about sharing and God-worshipping. Too hopeful?

I've said a lot, but what do I know. I still think I have a lot to learn.

God Bless


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Human beings a virus on the planet? Not to anyone who has a germ of a clue.

This 'article' is merely a rechurning of the same old purely
invented in the mind of the writer nonsense.

"Of course there are those who donate their wealth to charity but it is mostly done for show and not compassion".

And you know that Bill Gates has given away billions of dollars for the betterment of others with no compassion for his fellow humans how? Don't you think that's kind of an insult to him and others who donate? How about me? Not on the same scale, but how dare you say thatImy charitable donations are for self-aggrandizement and not because I think "Sure pal, I hope you feel better."

"Satan has become a god to most human beings etc. etc."

A fine argument here. Even though I (along with tens/hundreds of millions of other human beings) do not acknowledge the existence of this alleged supernatural being, we have no control - because you believe it exists, ny very disbelief proves I support it and that Satan therefore "is a god" to me. Get your merry-go-round tickets here!

Only one last: "It has been proved that the [cannabis] oil will cure so many illnesses including cancer"

I have to say, statements such as this make me believe you are not just into industrial uses for cannabis. I believe there are many economically sound and practically feasible uses for by products of hemp/cannabis - however, not miracle cures.

Maybe I'm wrong Could you please set down your sources that prove cannabis oil cures cancer (oh and a few of the many other diseases it will cure too). Reliable sources would be best; IOW, ciatation to articles such as yours which simply include the bald assertion that cannabis cures cancer would not be sufficient.

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Hi Frank, If you go to the Holistic Health site on BellaOnline I wrote an article on the Cannabis Cure. There is plenty of evidence out there for people who bother to investigate.

As this is my web site and I am allowed to write what I believe here, I have to expect that people are not going to agree with everything I say. This web site is my opinion and I am not expecting anyone to agree with me.

As for people like Bill Gates... hmmm. I do not want to give my views on people who make great shows of their charitable works.

All I am saying is we could ALL be a little more charitable, I didn't mention you personally Frank!

As for Satan, well, I understand there are those who deny the existance of the devil, just as there are those who deny the existance of God. But that is not going to stop me writing what I see and feel. You are not the first man to have a go because you didn't like what I had to say.

Do a little more research into cannabis oil and other herbal cures, that we are being told we cant use to cure ourselves. You may be englightened.

Don't be angry with me because I see things in a different light to you. I see Satan manipulating all of us and I do think many have sold their souls. As I said not expecting anyone to agree with me.

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Hey Yvonnie
This piece has upset a few people I can see. To me, and as I said in the previous post, this is my opinion, Satan has taken the place of God in many aspects of our lives.

When you say you rarely think that most are worshipping the devil, how many would you say are worshipping God alone?

Islam means to worship God alone, that means setting aside all the earthly things that Satan has to offer.

As Frank stated many people do not believe in either God or Satan, so when I write what I see happening around me, it upsets the apple cart.

There are plenty of 'nice' people who do not worship God or even acknowledge God but again that is not the point of our existance.

God says He made us to worship Him alone, yet the human race will idolise anything from money to other humans, dead or alive.

Maybe if we all took Susan's way and meditated on things a little more we could all make a difference, but from what I see in the world around me.. most people are only out for themselves.

Thanks for the responses.

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Hi Ian

In Paganism do you worship God? Caring about the world around is not worshipping God. This is my point. People do not even realise what constitues worshipping Satan. The first sin being not worshipping God alone.

We can care for everything but unless we attribute everything around us to the Creator ~ or as I know Him, God, then we are giving our souls to Satan.

Hard one to swallow I guess for those who do not follow a monotheist faith.


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Sorry forgot to log back into Islam id... posts above are from me.


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So I went to the Holsitic health section and found the following in the natural cures articcle:

"Cancer can be cured with the use of herbs, but this information is kept away from public"

This is not exactly the supporting evidence I was looking for. This is more of an unsupported bald statement.

Do you have any sources not written by you that support your statement that cannabis cures cancer (and other diseases)?

As to Bill Gates making a "big show" of his giving to charity, among the things I can say is that it is hard for people to not notice when someone makes gifts of over a billion dollars, so the fact that people are aware of his giving is not too surprising.


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Dear Linda

I really enjoyed your article. Agree with you on many points but not so much on others. Too many thoughts to list here but one thing that I do know is that people like Bill Gates give exactly for the reasons you said. Here's the proof for those who think he does it for generosity. Wake up! All he cares about is money.

Bill Gates, Monsanto, and eugenics: How one of the world's wealthiest men is actively promoting a corporate takeover of global agriculture

"After it was exposed that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the philanthropic brainchild of Microsoft founder Bill Gates, purchased 500,000 shares in Monsanto back in 2010 valued at more than $23 million, it became abundantly clear that this so-called benevolent charity is up to something other than eradicating disease and feeding the world's poor. It turns out that the Gates family legacy has long been one of trying to dominate and control the world's systems, including in the areas of technology, medicine, and now agriculture.

The Gates Foundation, aka the tax-exempt Gates Family Trust, is currently in the process of spending billions of dollars in the name of humanitarianism to establish a global food monopoly dominated by genetically-modified (GM) crops and seeds. And based on the Gates family's history of involvement in world affairs, it appears that one of its main goals besides simply establishing corporate control of the world's food supply is to reduce the world's population by a significant amount in the process."



Most people these days really are consumed by greed and selfish pursuits. If you doubt this just watch some reality t.v. or celebrities or learn how the companies you give your money to use that money and you will be shocked. This world has become more evil but I don't believe in satan. I think people have just lost perspective about what really matters. They want everything fast, cheap, and easy without regard to how that affects others.

Every person can make a difference. Vote with your wallet or your fork or your lifestyle. It's not that hard to be a better human being. Just takes some awareness and practice.

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If human beings are a virus are earth then so are ants. Look at the mess of things they make. and for every ant being virtuous and collecting food for others and getting squashed on my nightstand instead, I bet there's a flood of them back in the hill having a party. That's nature for you.


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I wanted to join this conversation earlier but just got busy. I do not believe that humans are a virus on the earth.I know that there are some [censored] attitudes and some that are just down right toxic but there are also some incredible folks walking around today as well. Look at how people pull together when adversity hits a certain group of people of different religion or culture. What I believe is happening is when some of us are threatened or attacked it seem like a universal force draws us all together to help the one in need. It is like if we don't care for each other then who will help us when we are down. I look for the positive in life. I get beat over the head at times by people telling me that I have a non realistic attitude but I sure would not want to emulate them in any way because of their attitude. I do not consider you a virus Linda. You are a neat lady!! Oh, have you done any belly-dancing lately? I love to watch it. Incredible artistry!!!!If you make a video put it on youtube and let me know!!!

Hope that you are doing very well Linda!! Your brother dave

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I agree with Dave. Certainly there are very wasteful and selfish people out there, but there are also many, many wonderful people who are kind, considerate, and compassionate towards others and towards other living things. More and more we are becoming aware of our impact on the environment and positive changes are taking place. Saying that human beings are a virus is a very generalized statement that surely does not apply to everyone.


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no herbs or medicine cures without second effects. as to humans being a virus,i don hink human means anyhing though they carry a virus.though i met very few nice people here and there,but i can like count them on my fingers (NOTE: I HAVE ALL MY FINGERS BY THE WAY)

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cancer is jus energy some people are rid of it because whey learn of i hey unknowingly change their dna and their way of life,so the cancer is released back into the cosmos,it is the god within that enacts healing,just through a shift of energy. others trust doctors,who the become gods too cause they decide wether you live or die in a way.some cancers are cured,but comes back cause nothing has changed wihin the patient,as most of the answers he could have found within he made it be up to doctors or treatment.but during the times he goes through treatment and doesn t come back,if yo look closely you ll have a side effect that will come back to haunt you because what you sow you reap. having been a cannabis smoker myself a long time ago,i would lie to say that you better get stoned if it helps beat cancer,bu just in the whole picture you re no really healed cause you just exchange i for another disease.now if there really was a cure,noone would know for business reasons a bit like tha guy who go mysteriously killed after he invented an engine that works with water.though a lo of spiritual people know and have cured cancer jus they d be killed all the same if hey opened their mouth,ironically even by those same people who got it.sociey oday is a cancer upon he face on his earth,where people are bound by illusions spreading he same cancer in their veins.if you can le go of hose chains esoecially because hey are jus illusions so can you let go of cancer.

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well said exercise editor about links removal.

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To Alice,

Do you know ,that ants and bees are placed in front of human beings as the smartest beings on the planet,followed by dolphins,then and then only comes the human being.

If you watched the first segment of trilogy of the Matrix,
man is compared to the worst creation on the planet ,invading everywhere destroying everything .moving on and doing the same thing again and again.Man in the movie is compared to a virus,because that what's a virus does.

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Dear Linda,

Totally in agreement with your article.

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