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#747090 - 02/19/12 04:08 AM Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers?
Christin - Tarot Offline
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I covered my ideas for Tarot ethics in my latest article. It is a subject I am very passionate about as you'll see smile.

How do you choose a reader who truly has your best interests at heart? What makes a good Tarot reader into an excellent Tarot reader? Unfortunately, not all Tarot readers hold the same values and there are many "scammy" operations in place designed to take advantage of those who are seeking genuine, honest advice or answers.

In an effort to simplify an exhaustive subject that I am very passionate about, I have come up with a list of things to look for and another list to avoid at all costs.

Tarot Ethics



Edited by Christin - Tarot (02/20/12 09:06 PM)
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#747914 - 02/24/12 06:51 PM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
gemineye006 Offline
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interesting topic!
i disagree on this one though:
�Ethical readers always empower the questioner. You should leave a reading feeling inspired and empowered, never confused or afraid.

you can t helpit if a client is afraid or confused,id what you tellhim confuses him,it s not you who s confused but the client,it comes from him not you,leading to the topic of empowerment where you actually don t empower a reader you open him to his own power so he can cut himself free from confusion or fear.if you empower him he ll be bound to you.and that is dangerous.

�An ethical Tarot reader will not look at 3rd parties without their permission when that person's life has nothing to do with you. For example, if a questioner is just nosy and wants to know more about the neighbors across the street for no real reason. That is, frankly, none of her business. If however, the 3rd party is connected to the questioner somehow that's a different story, for example if she feels the neighbor may be trying to steal her spouse or something. Ethical readers don't pry needlessly into the lives of others. Would you want someone who was curious about you to come peeking through your windows

if a client wants to know about the neighbours next door for noreason it stillis a reason,and comes with a price as wellit is as you said their life s path.a lotof things are done without reason and they are the best choices cause most of the time something is revealed thereafter.

�Readers should not engage in scare tactics or tell you that you have a curse on you. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book used by Charlatans to scare people out of their money and to dis-empower them. Think it doesn't still happen? Think again � I have dealt with this situation with many clients who came to me and said my last reader said I have a curse etc. It's �BS�. If a reader tells you this, get away from them as quickly as possible.

a reader told me i was cursed, and she was right because i recognized it myself,it s not always all of them that are liars.lots of readers do have hidden agendas,and most readers are not readers only but real witches.once you ask somebody to look for you you take the risk to show a weakness.tarot readers only exist in our time because lots of people lost the sight causing higher uses for the cards to remain hidden for the majority of people.if a reader tries to extort money from you you ll learn something from it,like trusting your own intuition or getting back in touch with it.

�Readers should never tell you that they have magic or special powers or �gifts�. Everyone has intuition and anyone can learn to read Tarot. Granted not everyone who picks up a paintbrush is an artist, but to insinuate that because you can pick up a paintbrush means you are more special than others is rubbish. Your reader should be down to earth and never brag that they are 100% accurate. If your reader comes from a long line of psychic ancestry etc. - it's nonsense. Perhaps their ancestors were also intuitive or psychic, but that isn't a �magical gift� bestowed only upon a few chosen genetic pools.

why shpudn t they, if you say you re a tarot reader it is the same thing,if you re just a tsarot reader it is one thing ,if you have other gifts that you can couple with it youshould just say it.i do there s nothing wrong with that.sometimes i used to let people chose a reading with tarot or one without.tarot reading is a whole you can t really seperate the whole thing in categories.

�A genuine reader will never dis-empower you or make you feel that your destiny is not in your hands. Unscrupulous readers who want you to keep coming back or who want to feel power over their clients will resort to scare tactics or to making you feel that your life is out of your control. This too is limited understanding at best, or a flat out lie. Life is not something that just happens to you. Everyone, no matter their lot in life, has choices they can make. No one is ever powerless, even in times of great struggle

powerlessness exists and learn greatly from it,there are times in your life where you re are powerless.there are certain times in life where doors are closed and nothing can be done about it.to say we always have control is presumptious.the more you control the more it controls you.powerlessness is sometimes necessarry to learn a lesson.

�Tarot readers should never engage in certain taboo subjects like Death. Chances are asking when you are going to die is not going to be accurate � besides, do you really want to know? Most Tarot readers who are ethical will never scare you about death or tell you that you are going to die (especially if they tell you they can prevent this or remove bad luck etc. see above).

death is part of the tarot,whether spiritual death or physical death,if one wants to know ifhe is going to die he can,the client is free.death is scary because society brought them upin this way.but it is perfectly natural.


i think it is an interesting article but feel pain about the whole ethical thing,and the black versus white structure.tarot is about the middle way and a real tarot reader is a high priestess,she stands in the middle in between the two pillars.tarot teaches that two opposites unified arethe annihilation of illusion.there are no real laws but the laws of the universe.trying to establish laws or codes of conduct create their opposites and an endless war between the 2 adding to the fact that you can t escape contradiction within yourself and from others.
everything you ve written is easilycontradictable and doesn t work as a set of principlesit hardens things,and blocks your vision and one s vision.i don t mean to be rude.an article like that that is supposedtoliberate one is on the contrary putting chains on him and can make one live in fear.which is another contraction.
innocence and freedom is the best approach and let the heart guide the hand.

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#747915 - 02/24/12 06:54 PM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
gemineye006 Offline
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tarot was better without ethics and it was spotless,there is a higher purposetoall this higher than ethics.
most magical arts have been corrupted by people who dont know or who want to know but can t .somehow it is good that the old orders andarcane secrets remain hidden cause it be wasted otherwise.again idon t mean to be rude,i just shared my point of view,and it is you life s path.


Edited by gemineye006 (02/24/12 06:56 PM)

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#747996 - 02/24/12 11:07 PM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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but i have something to add as to the tarot reader himself.
i am one myself but stopped for a time for personal reasons,if one can read cards and can t make any 100 % predictions then it is useless to be reader cause you can t be wrong in front of people who rely on you and one we ll have to answer to that one day.what you can do though is say what you re hundred percent sure of though.there s lots of readers who read but havent attained any kind of maturity in the matter.if one reads cards and knows he is not fully versed in them it is ok as long as he can take responsibility for it.
again i don t mean to be rude but the high priestess is the guardian ofthat knowledge and only her can use it.i know a few readers who are more than tarot readers,because just being a tarot reader is not enough to read and they are 100 % accurate.
it might look like i am a purist in some kind of way which i am in the matter of spirituality,and i do feel most of the time the need to guard certain arts from being desecrated.
again don t take it the wrong way christin it is not against you at all.he laws of the universe are much higher than human ethics.once youopen yourselfto those you open yourself to the vibration of the tarot.

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#748027 - 02/25/12 05:15 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: gemineye006]
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Fascinating, Gemineye, and great information to think about.
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#748636 - 02/29/12 03:01 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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Gemineye we can agree to disagree - that's fine.

I have been a successful psychic and Tarot reader for over 20 years and these are the ethics and moral code I stand by and that I pass on to others.

I respect your right to disagree however, I vehemently disagree with you that sometimes people are powerless - powerlessness is a choice. In every given moment of any period of time we have choices we can make - therefore we are never powerless. As for being 100% accurate - you and no one else can guarantee that because the person you are reading has free will/choice and can choose a different path at any time, therefore rendering previous readings no longer valid because they chose to make a change in direction.

Thanks for your opinions - different views are what make the world go round.
Christin
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#748654 - 02/29/12 07:24 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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being multidimmensinnal means you re always powerless somewhere and powerful somewhere,the interpplay of opposites makes the wheel turn.when you don t have knowledge you re powerless and you use the power you have to break a state of eing that is not always your choice.that s the time where everything becomes one.

as 100 percent accuracy it exists,if a client changes direction it doesn t mean you were innacurate,a clients change doesn t make you wrong.because that s relativity.
it also depends on the depth you read.

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#748664 - 02/29/12 08:09 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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acknowledging powerlessness is the source of power.if powerlessness didn t exist powerfulness wouldn t exist either.there are forces above us to which wehave no say because it isn t the time as there is an order in things.
the question is not since how long you ve been a psychic,because at the beginning of things we are all psychics,it isn t a gift or special ability as this relative of our time.the question is what s your soul made of.
when we set off a chain of events we are sometimes powerless to stop it because we have to go through it to the end,that makes us powerful.
again life isn t black or white,they are both and the unification of both is called sexuality where everything is as one.
also i m not in a confrontation here i m just expressing a point of view.but cutting off death a principle of tarot and just talk about life is a bit maiming.by cutting off the death talk, you actually bring about the death of life as death is needeed to make things go round.tarot is alive cause it masters death.
telling people that when somebody says you re cursed she s a fraud is totally judgemental and is projecting your experience on them,this is what hurts.lots of people are cursed because there are many levels of being cursed,they just don t know it.magic has always been around but what life is today won t last.
again lots of peopleare and everybody is psychic,but that is useless without the imprint of your soul.the ethics you create are just hindering your psychic abilities

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#748667 - 02/29/12 08:27 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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If you are doing Tarot, or any other type of divination for others, particularly if it is for money, then you should learn some basic counselling skills first. I am a fully qualified counsellor and hypnotherapist and, time and again, both skills have been invaluable when I have been doing readings.

My wife is a talented Rune reader and qualified as a counsellor also found how vital it was when playing the part of a 'Gypsy Fortune Teller' at a local re-enactment event. She was giving genuine readings and was amazed how quickly people accepted them to heart without passing them through their concious censor first.

So you can do a lot of damage if you don't know how to handle the situations that may arise from what you tell your client, and what this information brings up in them.
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#748673 - 02/29/12 09:21 AM Re: Tarot Ethics - What Makes Strong Readers? [Re: Christin - Tarot]
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This is a very interesting discussion. I like to work with the Tarot and find it fairly accurate. However, I am not knowledgeable enough about it to do readings for others. I will do a reading for myself then verify it with one who is more knowledgeable than myself in this area. This is an area where my power is not as strong as other areas of my psyche.

Which brings up the point that I am powerless to read for others. I agree with Gemineye, that if there is power, there is also powerlessness.

Everything has an opposite. There can be no beginning if there is no end, no life if there is no death. Does not the 'Death' card signify the end of one thing and the beginning of something new? In the Old World belief, there is no death, only other realms, other worlds.

There are two factions being discussed here and I can clearly see both sides. Gemineye is coming from the 'old order', the natural order of the gifts of the psychic mind and beliefs.

Christin is coming from the professional aspect and what is accepted in today's world of business, which involves ethics. One must comply to ethics when working with the public in today's world.

However, ethics, just as 'political correctness', is a stumbling block to those who work from a natural order of things in the Universe. When I ask for help and some knowledge of an issue in my life, I turn to a person who comes from the 'Old World' of knowledge. I do not pay money for this knowledge -- I do a favor in return. This type of knowledge, to me, is more helpful, for I know it is being given not for the money, but for the desire to help someone grow spiritually and to apply that to their life and the issues they are up against. I have received much peace from the knowledge imparted to me by a psychic of the old order.

I believe that many people who pay money for a reading only want to hear good things. Most of those people are not using their own psychic abilities which are inherent in all of us -- rather, they are relying on someone else to tell them wonderful things.

I am not criticizing any Tarot readers, for I admire anyone who has the gift of reading Tarot, I am just trying to point out that there are two different thoughts, or beliefs, in the realm of psychic abilities.

Very thought-provoking discussion here. Thank you.
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