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#743452 - 01/30/12 07:58 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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it s like freewill plays the role of being ableto change your destiny whendestiny is full grown,meaning it is destiny s destiny to be changed at that time,the sweet interplay between the elements of the universe.i feel you can t always and at any time do this cause you have to follow the law of growth.within that desiny there are still loads of smaller scale destinies on which you can exscercise free will cause lifehas also to be deep.
but at one point when you ve learned what you ve ;learned you ve already changed the course of your destiny,it s like destiny is a home and you just bought yourself a new one.once that is grounded it has to be lived,so within that home and with that home you can do many things,also it gives you a new environment and there you can ground things too and live this untilwhat you ve done is full grown.andyou tweak things again.
it makes me think of those guys who are so greedy that they need to own everything and enrich themselves more like greed has taken them over and they can t tweak anymore.they can t stopthey are hungry for everything,their spirit is gone.

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#743454 - 01/30/12 08:01 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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i also just want to crossover as we speak a lot about going home too,and home i feel is a kind of destiny,once you tweak destiny you leave a home behind and you re on the path of creating a new one and i feel that this is what it is goinghome.it might not be the same for everyone cause everybody has his key role in the universe and therfore its own magic,but somewhere we all play that game.

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#743456 - 01/30/12 08:29 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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i msorry if i keep on going on about it,but i thought it interesting to draw a map,and find a magical formula that permits understanding.
my experiences are not that important but the core is.
destiny could just be a woman and free will a star.
what about the mystery,and this is not from me,but one lady one day told me it was called DEATH by indians.isn t that for example what makes you tweak it because you re attracted by that mystery and change and therefore the death of a certain way of life?

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#743463 - 01/30/12 09:56 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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Gemineye, you bring up some very good points and have some deep insight into destiny. I am thinking that it may be possible, and very likely, that the tweaking here and there just may be a part of what destiny has already set up for us. Maybe destiny has put certain blocks in the path so that we will have to tweak it in order to learn something new rather than staying on course all the time.

Let me use an example. This is a true story that actually happened in my life. Several years ago I had a dream about a man I did not at that time know. He came to me in that dream and asked me to stay with him. He and I were both crying. I promised him I would stay with him. In the dream I knew him, yet when I awoke I wondered who he was. In the dream he had signed his name on a small piece of paper and I remembered his name when I awoke. I also remembered his face. After many years, he was still strong on my mind. Over the years I had a few other dreams and visions about him and he kept asking me to stay with him. I always promised I would. I began to realize that this man was spiritually very important to me. Thirty years after that first dream, I actually met this man. Same name, same face, same man I had dreamed about 30 years prior to meeting him. I knew I spiritually loved him and was bound to him in spirit, for he was my twin soul.

For reasons I cannot go into and because it would take too long to explain, my twin soul and I cannot be physically together in this life. I held on to hope because I felt that was my destiny, to be with him. I eventually realized I was only hurting myself and him by clinging to hope. I was afraid to let go, yet I did. When I was spiritually and emotionally ready, I let go and that is when he became the best friend I have ever had. That is also when another man, whom I am learning to love very much, came into my life and good things began happening in that friendship which may become more than friendship.

Did I tweak destiny by letting go of my twin soul and letting another come into my life? I think I did. And because I tweaked destiny, I gained a valuable friend and the possibility of a good relationship with another. I am at peace with this and my life is much happier than when I was clinging to hope. I have learned much by making a change and gained much by doing so.
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#743465 - 01/30/12 10:32 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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yes thats what i got when i read your poem,that it was about your twin,the hurtingpart is interesting cause it seperates you with your heart so you actually followedthe course that does putyou backin harmony.as elleeise says sometimes a cycle has to be worked through as a rsult of past decision.the peace decision is very important because it gives possibility to things to become and to evolve from a good basis and probably one day return to the source.still you re followingyour path beautifully phyllis.
i wonder knowif you tweaked destiny,listenning to your heart and b at peace is the most important thing and you certainly deepen your relationship with your twin soul.itmight just be a stepping stone on a bigger course.destiny would still be to be with your twin.i m looking for my twin too but have far less info than you about her but i know i have to follow my heart.the other thing is that i find it hard to be with the same person all the time not that i am not faithful but i amfaithful in the higher laws and change,and i believe that seperation brings about a new life and a reunion one day which is necessary to bring a realationship to anther level.the twin never leaves it just goes through constant changes.i feelthat what happenned to me and the way i gotseperated from my twin is going to enrich my relationship with this person so much cause like you we re bound spiritually.this might justbe a free will decision that has been taken long ago and might maybe not be remembered now in order as not to thwart your evolution.if you re at peace there s no way it isn t theright thing to do,i remembered sometimes to setlefor less but wow never did i feel at peace whivch led me to work more and not settle at all.
the thing with destiny is that at one point in that cycle it becomes boring,and in my lifei remembered that feeling and you feel a cycle has come to an end you that to
grow you have to leave hings behind spiritually speaking cause you ve walked the path to and fro,and at the same time some outside events comes to disturb that peace and you know it is time to depart.
i wonderif i ll meet my twin in this life i don t have the info yet,but i know that i mgoing to look for peace just like you.
obviously i didn t mean to peer but thank you phyllis for sharing this.


Edited by gemineye006 (01/30/12 10:33 AM)

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#743771 - 01/31/12 06:52 PM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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I think you are so right, Gemineye, in that destiny is still with my twin in my life, but in a different manner than I though it would be. Being such good friends with him is much more peaceful and happy than it was when I thought it was to be more than that. You are also right that the relationship has deepened due to letting go and finding a valuable friendship with him.

Yes, after walking that path to and fro it eventually became hopeless, then an outside even disturbed what was once peace, the time to depart came, and peace returned anew.

Gemineye, dear friend, I know you were not trying to peer. We are simply sharing and learning from each other and that is a wonderful thing. smile
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#761931 - 05/10/12 01:56 PM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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I think they can, but are we bound by a framework and can only change things so much? Re the crystal gazing excperience in this article I wonder to this day if I could have stopped my friend being injured. If I had what would that have shown about the accuracy of my precognition?
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#762843 - 05/15/12 10:13 PM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Ninjahedgewych]
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I've found two consistants, momentum and timing, that factor into the equation.

It's kind of like popcorn. If there's enough heat, that kernle is going to pop, regardless if you move it off the pan or not. The other kernles are almost like variables. So many and each touches the framework of the others in various degrees.

So, lots of variables, but I find readings in general, can be changed simply by focusing on the identifiable forces the reading reveals and addressing the issues at hand.


Edited by Elleise - Clairvoyance (05/15/12 10:14 PM)
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#769908 - 06/25/12 09:54 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: Elleise - Clairvoyance]
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hi...i've been doing readings of all kinds for some time..and the one thing i learned that outcomes to these readings can change..either by the knowledge that it is going to happen...or that the read in question is ignored...therefore the outcome possibly predicted could still continue.. some of my readings..can show more that one connection..and for each a different outcome.. it's basically what you want to believe...

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#770541 - 06/29/12 08:43 AM Re: Can Premonitions and Readings Be Changed? [Re: mystic bluemoon]
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Yes, readings and dreams especially come as more of a summary.

I have a saying...nothing happens to us we don't first either dream about or have a gut instinct about.

But, "thinking" comes into play. Analytical-ness smile So, often we block out many of the opportunities we have TO change things because it may seem unreasonable to actually implement them.

Outcomes, most outcomes, can be changed. But again, like a boulder rolling down hill, there are some manifestations in our lives that are simply a collective and too far down the line to correct.

Still, nothing is ever 100% non-negotiable, bad. As Human Beings, we can take anything challenging, disappointing or destructive and turn it into something better, even beautiful smile
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