It sure can be done, Dave.

I know because I have had depression off and on in the course of my life. It seems that certain events will trigger it. There were times that counseling helped for me, and I took the initiative to get help. If you have the right counselor it can make all the difference. I have had a few counselors in my lifetime, but they are not all the same. The real good ones are rare and really stand out. My last counselor is one of those people.

However, there were times where I got myself out of my depression all on my own, and that is what I am doing now. It is a process, and it can be very painful to emerge yourself in it to face the pain, but it can be done and you can come out of it if you have the mind focus.

Peace to you, Dave and Gemineye.

WE MADE IT!!!! WE ALL CAN!!!!

yes dave,however...as you say it can be done!that s the main thing,no excuses!!!!
who can really abondon you but yourself,and then cause a depression...
you can t ask frompeople not to abandon you cause it is an illusion...

yep. yep.

soon the rest of the world will find what we found !

God Morning Beloved Brothers and Sisters !!!

It's a new day !!!

Greetings, dear Burt.

Hi, Burt!

I feel ya. I would if I could, too.

I'm going through some really difficult things right now, and I normally sink into at least a mild depression (or worsening of my depression) this time of year, anyway.

Sometimes I wish EVERYONE could experience major/clinical depression FOR ONE DAY, so they could understand what it feels like, and how difficult it is to live with. Experiencing it is the only way to understand it, but some will never know. We just have to avoid those insensitive people, if possible. If we can't avoid them, we have to remember that they absolutely have no clue.

So, Dave..."puss bucket HELL," huh? LOL! I've never heard that before. Not sure what that is, but it sounds pretty bad! So glad you were able to get through your hell! Peace right back at 'cha!

Connie my fianc�e has Cyclothymic disorder and I have full-blown Bi-Polar Manic.

Through a great deal of suffering and a whole-hearted throwing ourselves upon The Rock of Christ -- The Living Jesus Christ, not some dead guy on a cross -- God arranged for Connie and I to be in Florida because SAD is real serious for us. e.g. Connie endured a 25-year loveless marriage, and I ended up in mental hospitals every time I broke up with a girl !!!

We would be dead or a ward of the state if God did not intervene.

Ask and you shall receive.

The negative forces rampant upon this planet get you soooo lowww that you feel not worthy to ask because they know the eternal cosmic laws of free-will love, wisdom and power a whole hell of a lot better than we do.

Once you pray, know, read, study and Intuit that we live in a cosmos of Light.

And that We Are Royal Children of The GOD of LOVE Father and Mother...

And, the universe was created for us as our playpen to learn our lessons...

Then to hell with the negative forces because they will be dealt with in God's Time not ours !!!!

Sincerely,

Burt B.