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What!???

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I guess I inquired about if anyone knew anything about sacrificial stones, so... if you don't, just say so. lol

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"A Pagan's circle for asking and sharing..." Sorry, I don't understand why 70 people have looked at this and no one has said hello...? What is up with this place? Could someone be polite and... explain please?

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Hi, twisted kilt! Welcome to BellaOnline forums. I am the editor for the ADD site and the Sandwiches site. If you need info on Attention Deficit, stop by. Also, if you need some ideas for sandwiches, we have some tasty ones.

I just saw your post, and thought that I would let you know why 70 people had looked, but nobody replied. To post, you need to have signed up. If you just want to lurk about, you don't need to sign up, but it does show that you stopped by. Maybe most people were just lurking.

If you want to discuss why the post was pulled, why don't you send a private message to the forum moderator, ninjahedgewych. Go to the top of this column where you see a little down arrow under MT Stuff. Click it and send a PM to him.

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A forum moderator at BellaOnline has the right to run their forum the way they think is best for all. Apparently there was some doubt as to the content of your post and the moderator had his reasons for pulling it.

His statement of "Post deleted by Forum Moderator due to inappropriate content and implications." is very clear to me. He felt that your content was not appropriate for his forum.

The word 'sacrificial' may be one of the points he was referring to and so your entire message was probably termed unacceptable because of the implications of that word.

I agree with Connie - if you disagree or want to clear things up, send a private message to the moderator. There are certain words and implications he does not want in his forum - so a private discussion would be a much better way to deal with this.


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Great reply, Phyllis.


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Hey, thanks for replying. Yeah, since I couldn't fathom why I was treated this way, it occurred to me that someone took my post in the wrong way. I simply mentioned that I have a sacrificial stone, a real one, an ancient one and whether anyone knew anything about them. Never occurred to me for a moment that anyone would 'assume' that I.. what - sacrifice things on it? lol -- well, let me just say here while I can that I never think of it that way, so it hadn't occurred to me. Certainly if I inadvertently offended someone, it wasn't intended. And indeed I did attempt to write to the moderator, but they don't do pms I guess. I did finally get to a place where I could inquire, but no response, so. Just wish that maybe someone would have asked me if they had a problem with my post instead of doing that. I guess I am not getting off to a good start.

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How do you use your stone?


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Ok so I personal have a few questions about the actual stone if you don't mind. I should mention I am a big fan of Antiques especially ones connected with religion. You said it was a "Sacrificial stone" do know from what culture / point in history it originated? what kind of rock is it Limestone, granite ect.? How did you come to acquire it? How big is it. As far as ideas for use, personally I would use such a thing as a centerpiece on a Samhain alter to place floral/vegetation offerings on. I do except pm s by the way if you wanted some one to talk to about pagan and history subjects

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How do I use my stone -- well, very rarely. we actually use it the same way my parents did -- it is a very cool shelf of an outdoor fire pit, where we have spent a lot of wonderful summer evenings as a family and with friends. Occasionally, if I feel a very strong need to pray for something, I do it there. I sort of talk to it and stroke the trough. Sometimes I put a candle on it and say a little prayer/wish. that's pretty much the extent of it. Any small thing I've done for a friend pretty much entails using the firepit as much as anything else, but its pretty magical just having the stone right there. Sulverna - I do not know what culture/point in history it originated, but I suspect Celtic and I suspect VERRY long ago. It is an almost exact replica, but much smaller of the one that is at America's Stonehenge, in Salem, NH. I have been there, and that is a huge one. I climbed down and touched it, like I touch mine, and I felt such a vibration my hand was numb the rest of the day, which I found totally exciting. I got it from my parent's house, grew up with it next to their fire pit, but never knew/figured out what it really was til I was an adult and cleaned it out by running my fingers down it, clearing of pine needles and dirt and lo and behold, look here, there is a drainage trough also and just went "whoa... holy cow" basically. lol I don't know if my parents had no idea or if they just didn't want to scare us little kids. I suspect the latter and they pretty much knew. My dad told me once it was for "making barrels in the old days" and I questioned him because that made no sense. He offered nothing else, lol. Size is about 30 inches long by about 24, I'm guessing as I am inside right now. It appears to be a type of shale as it looks really old and layered - it has flecks of mica in it... it looks very much like a granite but so old that it has thin strata. But I am not sure! My understanding is that is was dug up at my parent's house -- I grew up in a circa 1690 saltbox -may have been one of the oldest houses in new england, I have heard. I can recall as a child diggin in the yard and digging up an arrowhead here and there. Didn't think much of it -- didn't everyone dig up arrowheads in the yard?? Oy!!! *knocks head*

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Welcome to the forum twisted kilt, whilst it seems you got off to a shaky introduction, im sure it was just a misunderstanding as I have found this forum a great place to interact.

I didnt know even that these stones even existed til i read your posts! So thanks for teaching me something new smile

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Right! Now I understand what you are talking about!

It sounds like you have a stone attuned to the Element of Fire, and possibly the Salamanders (fire elementals) This would explain the rapid response to spells - particularly when you use candle magick.

I'll have a look at the art of cooperage - barrel making - and see what the trough might have been used for. My first instinct is that it was either used for shaping the barrel or soaking staves to make them more malleable for shaping into the finished article

Having looked at the "American Stonehenge" I can see where you might have got the idea it was a sacrificial stone. Current theories are that there were no sacrifices of people or animals at Stonehenge and that the stones that have been misinterpreted as sacrificial altars over the years were torn down by the Romans or by storms. . The idea of sacrificial stones at the site is not a new one, but has always been hotly contested. .

It sounds like you have a lovely altar-type stone that has been attuned to the Fire Element and totally unsullied by anything having been killed on it which makes it ideal for rituals. You may even want to incorporate the other elements to empower your spells and rituals.



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When you say Celtic do suspect it was brought over during "colonial times" or are you a fan of the theory of earlier Atlantic crossings? Although to be fair it could just as easily of been made by Native Americans, especially if you were finding arrow heads in the area as well. Either way that it really cool rock and you should consider yourself luck to have it.

I looked up the magical properties of Mica for you, I hope you find the info useful.

"Mica has reflective qualities to recognize flaws and see them with love. It is used to improve visions and clarity in mysticism. It is said to help eliminate negative personality traits by helping one recognize them. Mica is said to enhance flexibility in all realms and also assist growth in those areas. It is used to diminish anger, hostility, and nervous energy. Mica aligns energy of the body and releases blockages of energy within the body. Physically, mica is used in crystal healing and folklore to reduce hunger when fasting, insomnia, mononucleosis symptoms, dehydration. It is also said to provide energy and purpose."

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Checked again and it looks like I had the wrong site for "American Stonehenge"(!) This looks like the right site. Interesting quote though

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Artifacts found on the site lead archaeologists to the conclusion that the stones were actually assembled for a variety of reasons by local farmers in the 18th and 19th centuries. For example, a much-discussed "sacrificial stone" which contains grooves that some say channeled blood closely resembles "lye-leaching stones" found on many old farms that were used to extract lye from wood ashes, the first step in the manufacture of soap.[9]


Will have to see if there are any photos of the table to compare and remote dowse.


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Does it look like any of these ?

It would still make sense though as lye is a very 'hot' chemical


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Yes, it looks like some of those, and it is at the one at Salem, NH -- I just looked on my photobucket for the photos I have, but didn't have any luck finding it -- I will post it when I find it. I agree with you, my use of the term "sacrificial stone" is just what we have always called it because we had an elderly friend who knew something about these things and sure enough, he firmly believed it was a blood funnel... but I do not know this for sure. I certainly hope not! That just makes it even more awesome in my eyes if that were true, though having my dad be right in barrel making would sort of disappoint me on the other hand. LOL //. You may even want to incorporate the other elements to empower your spells and rituals.// this is one reason I am here, I want to learn more things like this. I sort of 'freelance' in what feels right, and more times than not I find I get results. Though this isn't something I would say I do on a routine basis I would have to admit that compared to my neighbors and community I do this way more than any of them. LOL Sulverna, thank you so much for your insights on MICA. Found it fascinating and I have a bit of a thing for geology -- I guess I really am just drawn to the ancient and the basic on the earth. I want to say that I am interested in everything you all know in these interesting areas -- I've been looking for a window into these arts for a long time and I have finally taken a step toward learning more.

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Researching on some chemical sites the lye-extraction hypothesis looks ever more likely. Most of them say the same sort of thing summed up by the quote:

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Physical Characteristics竊�/strong>Mica is a type of water layered silicate minerals, many types, the Muscovite has a unique acid and alkali resistance, chemical stability, also has good insulation and heat resistance, is not combustible, corrosion protection.


Which makes it ideal for the extraction of lye used in soap making

For a really exhaustive overview you can check this site . Translated from the Chinese it gets a little weird in places but that stops it from getting boring.

Still an excellent altar stone though - and very thoroughly cleansed!

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Thanks! I still can't find my photos on photobucket... not sure if they were deleted - sheesh. So I'll look on my other computer this weekend and upload them again -- have a good weekend, all.

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Welcome, twisted kilt! I'm the Cocktails editor and I love rocks! And I'm not talking about the cold, hard stuff you put in a glass to cool a drink!

I don't have anything as interesting as the stone you're describing but I do collect rocks. Sometimes a rock just seems to call to me and I keep it. My rock collection has become a kind of memory collection as each one reminds me of the circumstances it came into my life. I love rock climbing, too. Love being surrounded by the ancient earth in its pure, raw power. Most of my friends collect rocks, too. Many of us have a basket or pot of rocks sitting near our front or back doors.

When I moved away from Texas a number of years ago, I packed up my rocks in a box and labeled it 'Texas real estate.' You should have seen the inquisitive looks on the Oregonians helping me unload them. Nobody said a word about that box except that it sure was heavy!

Again, welcome! I'm glad you're on board. I've been here a little over a year and I'm still learning how to navigate through the forums, newsletters, articles, and the whole nine yards. It's a big, busy website and there's a lot to learn. Don't give up on us, OK? smile



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Thanks Sandy -- it seems you and I have two mutual interests! :D

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