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News from Scottish researchers show the body is fighting off infection. CFS article


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I have FM and I beleive my mom had it 35 years ago when she was very weak and told her white blood cell count was off. I did ask my specialist if I could be tested for this new virus being found and he said they are not testing patients yet. I think they are getting closer to finding out what is wrong with us and will help the next generation but maybe too late for us.

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mtoepfer, it isn't too late for you. We know heaps about healing in general and I'd urge you to look into that. I had CFS/FM for 32 years and I had 2 children who had it for around 5 years. We are all well and have been for two decades now. Those of us who have been working in the area for many years know that some people are triggered into CFS/FM by infections. Other things can also drop us in - any major assault on the body from car crashes, to pregnancy to vaccinations to toxins. But remember healing is the normal outcome. In New Zealand in the 1980s we followed through hundreds of patients and found that 80% spontaneously recovered in 2 years. It is possible now to speed that up and increase healing in the others. I would recommend you stop focussing on tests for particular viruses and start focussing on what you can do which will make a difference. Go for general healing through stress reduction and excellence in food (fresh fruit, veg, pasture grown meat and eggs and cut out flour and sugar.)

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There is a nice herbal product that works for some cases of chronic fatigue caused by epstein barr, maybe other causes too.

Its called Monobrex. Do a search. It is easy to replicate on your own. I would think that the herbs that are in it are capable of doing the job. myself, I would use MMS and save myself a bunch of money.


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CFS/Fibro has many root causes. They are a build-up of viruses, infections, agents, all number of toxins, that the body holds on to due to an in shock central nervous system. Most of these toxins are intentionally distributed as a form of population control, careless use of herbicides and pesticides, and the testing of bio-warfare agents.

I have cut out every "bad" food there is. I spent 9 months eating nothing but organic beef, leeks, fennel, soft cheese, and organic eggs. I've had a strict vegetarian diet, along with no wheat or dairy. I mean, I've done it all. If you have real CFIDS it is not diet related. If you have some other form of fatigue and have food sensitivities, you can probably get well by changing your diet.

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MMS not only kills almost all microbes but it will detox heavy metals also.


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I don't believe in "real" CFS/ CFIDS/ FM /ME or others. It is always possible to exclude people and make a statement that something is or is not included. I believe CFIDS is as diet related as cancer and heart disease and arthritis is. That is, it is unlikely to be causal, but it can make a difference. Changing your diet might not work in the short term if that is all you are doing. However a good diet can help reduce blood sugar swings which reduces the demand on the adrenals, which supports the thyroid, which keeps the body temperature up and improves immune functioning all of which impact on pain levels. High sugar levels just don't help when you are ill regardless of the condition. The best explanation I have is to compare these conditions to a broken arm. The doctor can't fix it, can only put it in a cast in the hope and expectation that your body will heal itself. What those of us with chronic illness/disease need to do is to make a "cast" of good health behaviours - physical, emotional, spiritual, social - and hope our bodies will help. Herbs can make a difference, but only, I believe in a general healing way. This can work. Arrow: how about telling us what MMS is?

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MMS is a controversal orally taken (generally) antiseptic that is proving to cure many many conditions that have been incurable.

Currently it is making its primary mark in curing malaria in Africa. Unlike WHO approved drugs mms cures in one or two doses.

I have been tracking on this for over 3 years and spend a lot of time educating people on how to use it. Some folks have had remarkable results with it. It is not natural medicine but is alternative. It is extremely good at eliminating blood born pathogens and those that latch onto white and red blood cells.

I have seen dark field blood analysis of before and after treaments, over a 24 and 48 hour period. The beneficial changes it brings to blood cells is amazing.

The FDA recently put a warning out on it. But let me remind you that the FDA has approved many many many drugs that have killed people. This I call FDA sanctioned death through legal drugs.

If you search on MMS you will find lots of different material. Right now I recommend the Blog by Adam Abraham, who has tracked the developer of MMS around the globe to report the story, attend his newly formed school and to write what he has learned.

There is also the MMS developers website where the science of it is explained as well as specific treatment protocols.

I know people who have cured cancer with this, as well as Fibro.
so many different diseases cured... but alas not all things cure with it. It just seems hard to predict what will cure and what will not in each individual.. It is extremely helpful for crohn's disease.

Due to FDA stalking Jim Humble has had to set up a church for MMS users and practitioners to protect them from the far reaching hand of the FDA. The church is a healing church and promotes no specific religious doctrine.. but to heal humanity.
The organization is based in the Dominican Republic.

In order not to be swayed by the nay sayers it is necessary to keep a very open mind and to really listen to those people who use it regularly and to those who have cured themselves of significant suffering.

A recent case I am aware of is that of a small boy who got some strange bacterial rash all over his legs. The family doctor prescribed 10 days of antibiotics. The family chose to use mms instead due to concerns long term effects that antibiotics can cause as well as the cost.. folks kinda live hand to mouth in this farming community.

The boy took the mms and in two days the rash was gone. No antibiotics needed.

IMHO the discovery of mms is one of the most important breakthoughs in all medical science. It will give the opportunity for the teeming masses around the world to heal themselves of a multitude of diseases for just pennies a day.


Jim Humble- MMS Developer

Adam has may articles on mms on his blog starting from the inception. What ever there is to know about mms historically you will find it here, as well as how to use it
Adam Abraham's Blog

The article that comes up in Adams blog link is not the one I was tryin to link to.. You will better understand that article if you go to the right hand column and start with Adams article called No Miracle just wonderful chemistry. There you will get the foundation of mms.






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