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Angie,

Her real first name was Katarzyna...don't know last name. When they came to America, her paperwork stated Otylie Klus (Klus was not their real name). They left through a port in Germany (I'm at work and don't have it on me) and entered through Boston. They were from Austria. Originally scheduled to sail on the Titanic, she had a cold and they cancelled the trip and came over in 1913. Her father and uncle came in 1910 or '11. I found their exact dates, ports, etc and was going to send off for copies.

Aside from stories about life in Austria, that's all I know. Oh, if the stories are all to be believed their were quite well to do...possibly minor royals.

My cousin, though he refuses to admit it now, took the original papers that the Emperor signed when they left Austria. It had their names on it. Anyone who knew the name is now deceased.

Tracing Native American ancestry can be quite difficult because most family information was oral and not written down. I wrote an article which may be of help to anyone trying to track down their Native American heritage. You can read the article at the following link:
Tracing Native American Ancestry

you probably need to hook up with an Austrian list to see if anyone has information. Since her name on the manifest is not correct, you will need to search records there. It is a shame your cousin will not share the information. Perhaps the papers of the emperor contain a copy of the letter he has.

I received the following message from a friend of mine that didn't feel comfortable posting on our regular group site. Can someone help? Thank you, Cari Jane Cari, How have you been. I have put this off, just for not knowing how to say or word it. I found my Smoking Skeleton! My inablility of finding out more about my GRandma has come to a head and I know why even the little stuff was hidden. We know she was Indian, we know she was either Choctaw, or Chickasaw. But nothing to tell us either way. There may be clues in the news papers or court papers about her ... She was a very Well Respected Madaam of a Brothel in Chickasha in the late 20s and early thirties. But I cant of course find anything about her. Her name is Rosa Lee Hill Goad born 1879 Rusk TExas. Is there anyone that you knwo that can check a library or something for her.. Also her daddy James Monroe HIll b July 21 1832 Talladega AL Died in 1919 in the Confederate home in ARdmore.. no obits or where he is buried. Thank YOu so much ... and I Hope you understand why I didn't put this on the board... It doesn't bother me but I am not ashamed of her.. she did what she could for her family duirng the depression and had 3 daughters to support since GRandpa STerling Goad mangled his hand during a accident in the oil fields.

CariJane,

I'll see what I can find tonite. Taking sons to work, but will look around this evening. Glad you wrote.
Tina

Goad Hill Genealogy

Are you able to open the above link. It has information on this family. If she can open, and it does not answer what she is wanting to know, let me know and I'll keep looking.

Tina

Hi there, Cosie3. I sympathize -- nearly all my research is in Europe, very little here in the US. I have been doing Genealogy for almost 36 years now. I would HIGHLY recommend you do two things: 1. Find the nearest LDS Family History Center and go there for an orientation on how to use their resources. The Mormons have been documenting European genealogy for several decades and are the ones we have to thank for building the research libraries for genealogists. 2. Buy a monthly subscription to Ancestry.com. I've been using them all this time and they have saved me hundreds of dollars and time. I know it's a bit pricey, so what I do is keep a US subscription for most of the year, saving up my leads needed European research, and then upgrading for about 3 mos at a time to the International collection. It's always worth it, because they are constantly adding to the collections. Once you've found your basic info, then it's worth it to consider a subscription to one of the archival news services that collect local newspaper articles. If you want any further help, you can reach me through email on smilinize@comcast.net. I'd be glad to help out in any way I can.

Hi, Lyn, I'm a genealogist with a lot of years experience in Austrian/Hungarian research ... and I can read a bit of the old style German as well. I will be glad to search on my Ancestry.com membership, unless you have done that already. Let me know via email and if I can do this for you, please send as much detail as you already know about her. I'm glad to help to any extent I can. My email is smilinize@comcast.net

Cari Jane: I did some research on Ancestry.com, and I think I have a page full on info on Rose Lee Hill (aka Rosalie Hill) and her husband, Sterling Goad (aka Wm Sterling Goad), info that was posted by two other researchers working these family lines. It's too much to post here. You can either give her my email (smilinize@comcast.net) or write to me yourself and I'll transfer what I've found.

Lyn, I have a sourcebook of European nobility and their trees -- I will try to see if I can find anything in it. What were the Austrian stories? If you can write them down and send to me, I can look for clues that may help. Been doing this with my family stories for about 30 years, would be gladto help. Austria's my particularly special place of interest. send anything you like to my home email (smilinize@comcast.net) Joan McGrath (jem626)