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#544776 08/26/09 02:35 PM
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Hi Veronica,

I know that you can have CFS and not Fibro, but was wondering if one can have Fibro without CFS?

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Shannon

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Not that I've heard of. I personally believe that CFS is the beginning level of FM.

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I was diagnosed with fibro several years ago, and doc never said anything about CFS. I know that some of the symptoms overlap.

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I have had two specialist tell me the words can be used interchangably and that they are the same thing except that FM complain of more pain.

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In our country it tends to be CFS if diagnosed by a primary care physician and FM if diagnosed by a rheumatologist. The symptom list is identical. From a patient point of view CFS is usually characterised by fatigue, and FM by pain though we tend to have a selection of the same symptoms.

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My update:

I had had head pain all of my life, that radiated down my neck, shoulders and back. I didn't know that this was fibro...now I do.

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Shannon, are you aware that Lyme causes headaches and pain radiating down the back, shoulders and neck?

My neighbor had lyme for over 20 years before he found out! He's doing well now thanks to a great lyme doc who uses alternative medicine.

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...I was diagnosed with CFS by a rhumi, and two PCPs....

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Originally Posted By: Hilary
In our country it tends to be CFS if diagnosed by a primary care physician and FM if diagnosed by a rheumatologist.

The symptom list is identical. From a patient point of view CFS is usually characterised by fatigue, and FM by pain though we tend to have a selection of the same symptoms.


Yes, they have a symptom picture for a basket diagnosis. No etiology there for no means to a cure.

Many cases of Fibro in the US are turning out to be lyme. There is only one sure fire way to diagnose lyme and that is with a dark field live blood analysis microscope. You can see the cysts and the spirochetes.. I've seen the photos from an electron dark field scope also.

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No, Arrow, I didn't know that!

However, I've had this pain for most of my life...long before the bio-warfare agent was introduced. Well, by ticks, anyway...we have absolutely no idea what they have been putting into our vaccines for all of these 60 some odd years...now do we?

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