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#485795 - 01/17/09 11:32 PM 2012 changes on planet earth
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2012 The end of planet earth as we know it - does anyone know the theories behind this prediction
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#485827 - 01/18/09 03:54 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Pamela Prebble]
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Hi, I think this is based on the Mayan Calendar which ends in 2012. There have been shows on either the History Channel or PBS about this.
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#486055 - 01/19/09 01:26 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Angie]
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There are many different predictions coming from more than just the Mayan calendar.

There will be an alignment of the Earth, Sun, and the center of the Milky Way on 12/21/2012 (Winter Solstice). That has sparked some of the hypotheses about 2012. No one quite knows what this alignment will bring.

Other hypotheses revolve around a possible global awakening in 2012, that will essentially allow humanity to evolve to a new level. Whether this will be a peaceful awakening or a global catastrophe that causes the awakening, I guess we'll find out. I tend to think it will be the latter, though I hope for the former.

Another one involves a shift in the magnetic poles, which has happened multiple times in the past and is due to happen again.

Plus, there are a whole slough of other natural phenomenon that we are ultimately due for: a comet or asteroid hitting us, us going through a highly turbulent area of the galaxy, etc...

All kinds of goodies. There are a ton of books about this.

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#486075 - 01/19/09 03:22 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: froggie0424


Other hypotheses revolve around a possible global awakening in 2012, that will essentially allow humanity to evolve to a new level. Whether this will be a peaceful awakening or a global catastrophe that causes the awakening, I guess we'll find out. I tend to think it will be the latter, though I hope for the former.


Perhaps that is why the Mayan Calendar stopped where it did. Did they disappear or disperse at a time when there was an event? I hope the same doesn't happen to us.
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#486258 - 01/19/09 07:28 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: froggie0424
There are many different predictions coming from more than just the Mayan calendar.

There will be an alignment of the Earth, Sun, and the center of the Milky Way on 12/21/2012 (Winter Solstice). That has sparked some of the hypotheses about 2012. No one quite knows what this alignment will bring.

Other hypotheses revolve around a possible global awakening in 2012, that will essentially allow humanity to evolve to a new level. Whether this will be a peaceful awakening or a global catastrophe that causes the awakening, I guess we'll find out. I tend to think it will be the latter, though I hope for the former.

Another one involves a shift in the magnetic poles, which has happened multiple times in the past and is due to happen again.

Plus, there are a whole slough of other natural phenomenon that we are ultimately due for: a comet or asteroid hitting us, us going through a highly turbulent area of the galaxy, etc...

All kinds of goodies. There are a ton of books about this.

I have been wondering about the various sources for this also. I had heard from an astrologer friend that there is a general shift going on, represented by shifts in the outer planets, and that 2012 is when certain of these culminate, which doesn't necessarily mean anything will happen right in 2012, but rather that this whole period - a few years before and after - is a big transition period. From her perspective everything going on now politically and economically is part of this shift, but we may not really see the full results of the shift until we look back on it many years after 2012. Have you heard this view?

My big concern with a lot of what I have read about this theory is the fear-mongering that is going on. It is just like 2000, when many people used the idea that the world was going to fall apart that year to frighten people into adopting their views, etc.
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#486299 - 01/19/09 10:33 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Lisa - Buddhism]
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I do think it is interesting to ponder such things, but at the same time I agree with you. If you believe you create your own reality with the energies and such you send out, it's pretty easy to see that taking a lot of this doom and gloom seriously isn't creating a good energetic atmosphere. (Basically, perhaps just our thoughts on the matter will direct the future to this more unpleasant course.)

And, a lot of it we can't do anything about anyway. If a comet hits the earth, we will just have to deal with it.

The stuff that we can control is the stuff I'm more interested in. Perhaps this idea of "global awakening" will allow us to see the problems that have been going on and finally respect each others' differences. You know, as opposed to blowing each other up...

We shall see, I guess.

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My big concern with a lot of what I have read about this theory is the fear-mongering that is going on. It is just like 2000, when many people used the idea that the world was going to fall apart that year to frighten people into adopting their views, etc.

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#511269 - 04/10/09 04:27 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Pamela Prebble]
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I wrote an article on the 2012 predictions that discusses some possiblities and my personal opinion on the subject. Personally, I do not feel as though the world is going to end, as many seem to think. I just think there will be many changes, some profound.

Here is the link to my article:

Approaching The Fifth World

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#514042 - 04/19/09 12:19 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
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I think that 2012 will be a time of change. I believe that if we look to catastrophic events for such a change that we might look amiss. There is no greater change than that which happens within each individual or more porfound. It happens within not without. For some folks 2012 might very well be the end, at least in their understanding and they must grasp a higher consciousness. For some, it may be just another year, and for some it may be a time when the shackles of bondage fall off.


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#517572 - 05/03/09 12:49 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: ]
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Very well said, ancientflaxman. The changes will more than likely come from within each individual and how they perceive life and their spiritual connections/growth.


Edited by Phyllis, NA and Folk (05/03/09 12:49 AM)
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#523795 - 05/29/09 02:26 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Angie]
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[quote=Angie]Hi, I think this is based on the Mayan Calendar which ends in 2012. There have been shows on either the History Channel or PBS about this. [/quote] It is based on the Mayan calendar; however it is believed by many that the reason why the date ends in 2012 is because that is when the end of earth/life as we know it. Others believe it is not the end rather a big change EX: Ice Age. There has been extreme changes in our atmosphere over the past ten years and we are now seeing those changes more than ever. Blessed be....
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#523802 - 05/29/09 02:51 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Maureen-Twisted artist]
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I still wonder, though, if the Mayan Calendar does not predict or insinuate the end of the world, but simply that the calendar (the circle) is to be repeated, in order to carry on the dates and go forward.

Here is an excerpt from my article:

So, I came upon a simple solution. The Mayan calendar, based on a period of 260 days and covering centuries, from ancient times to the winter solstice in 2012, is a cycle of time. At the end of that cycle, a new cycle will begin. The new cycle was just not calculated by the ancients. Why would they go beyond the many centuries they did when maybe the new cycle will just be a repeat of the same calendar, the same cycle with different dates?

Since ancient times, the Native Americans have seen life in the form of circles, from birth to death, to rebirth in another realm - in human life as well as all creation. On that morning, after the end of the Mayan calendar cycle, is the world going to be destroyed? Or, is simply a new cycle of time in centuries going to begin?


What do you think?


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#524747 - 06/02/09 03:19 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
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Phyllis, I'm glad you brought this up, because I had heard this also, I think on that PBS special referenced earlier by someone. That the 2012 date is meant to signal the start of a new cycle, and so does represent a major turning point, but doesn't have an apocolyptic connotation. And that is interesting to me because it corresponds to Hindu writing on yugas, although there aren't any specific dates tied to 2012 related to yugas that I have personally heard of. But the idea behind yugas is also cyclical.
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#525516 - 06/04/09 01:00 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Lisa - Buddhism]
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I think that it is common for people to look for an apocolyptic event to end a certain period of time. I think that if we look deep within our spirit we long for change. How many of us say,"I can't keep going on this way!" What then do we do, we change within. Sometimes the most ardent supporters of a drastic change are those that have the greaest amount of change that needs to be done within. Coping with life daily is an incredible challange for anyone but there are no shortcuts. We can make the necessary change and grow or we have lesser options that usually end up less than satisfactory. Most of the time when we avoid change we end up back with the same choice a little further down the road. The change we need to make is within. Changes outside happen as a result of changes within. 2012 is everyday. Blessed Be

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#526257 - 06/05/09 11:01 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: ]
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I remember what it was like when the year 2000 was approaching. People were panicking and some I knew were actually getting sick over the worry of an apocolyptic event happening. It was bizarre!

I agree with you, ancientflaxman, "The change we need to make is within".
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#526274 - 06/06/09 01:24 AM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: ]
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This is the first time I've ever written on a forum so bear with me! What you're talking about reminds of the fascinating book I just read by Gregg Braden-Fractal Time. He talks about all the same things you are-the cycles etc. Really a great book about 2012.

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#535440 - 07/09/09 02:41 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
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Phyllis, I think you have a good question here.

The thing I think about most when people think of "the end" is really simple. What are we doing today? Are we loving each other? Are we living....truly living our lives?

You know the old saying....what if you got hit by a bus tomorrow? May be corny but it's a good question to ask ourselves. Does knowing or not knowing the date that we will end our lives in this world make a difference in the way we live our lives today?

Think about how many people succumb to a bad health report and actually will die in the given time frame of six months. What if they were told they had six years? Subconsciously would they have more strength to live longer? To trust in the Divine Healer's plan instead?

Just a few thoughts....and by the way....have a beautiful and lovely day, today and tomorrow....and every day after that smile

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#536010 - 07/11/09 07:08 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Sue-Reg.Cuisine]
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Thank you, Sue, for your thoughts and your well wishes. I agree with you on not worrying about when the end may come. I live for today. I wish you well and I wish for you enough - enough of all that you may need, for now and for all time. Blessings.
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#536103 - 07/12/09 05:21 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Sue-Reg.Cuisine]
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Hello Sue !! Your attitude is incredible !!!! I will print what you have posted and put it up on my fridge.

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#536205 - 07/13/09 01:52 PM Re: 2012 changes on planet earth [Re: Phyllis at Folk/Myth]
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Phyllis smile Thank you so much for the beautiful blessings....you are a wonderful soul.....thank you smile Have an amazing and spectacular day....today!

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Ancientflaxman....thank you smile Stay inspired and may you enjoy each day, to the full, filled with love and joy for yourself and those around you smile many blessings smile

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