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Vance,

I am reading a book titled: Goddess, the story of Marilyn Monroe's adult life. There is so much unsolved mystery surrounding her death that involves the Kennedys, Peter Lawford and even Hoffa. It is odd that all those people died mysteriously within just a few years.

Is this one of those things that will never be resolved, do you think?


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Marilyn Monroe will always be a mystery. They will solve the Hoffa disappearance and the Lindbergh baby kidnapping before unraveling all that Marilyn was involved with.

Someone just privately bought a film of Marilyn...um...servicing an unknown male in a video that was secretly filmed by someone and for the longest time J. Edgar Hoover was trying to prove that it was one of the Kennedys as he hated them both but he couldn't. The film was with the F.B.I. for many, many years and a private party recently purchased it before it went public because of FOIA. The party says he purchased it to protect Marilyn.

Peter Lawford was part of the Rat Pack with Dean-O, Sammy and Frank and Frank, along with Lawford had strong mob ties. In fact that whole deal with Johnny Fontaine in the first Godfather movie is about Frank Sinatra.

Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa and Santo Trafficante had something to do with the Kennedy assassination, unofficially of course, but Hoffa wanted him dead and when he was killed, he told someone to thank Marcello and Trafficante. In fact, he was talking to an aide to Marcello and said, "I knew we could do it. Make sure you tell Carlos that I owe him big for this." I was paraphrasing a bit but that is the gist of what he said.

Marcello had a grudge against the Kennedys because he was "deported" to Guatemala from the U.S. but the U.S. didn't do it legally. They basically kidnapped him in the dead of night and put him on a plane and dropped him off in the jungles of Guatemala.

Trafficante had a thing against the Kennedys because when Fidel came into power in Cuba, he shut down all of the casinos and such that the Mafia opened up there under the former rule of Cuba and Kennedy was supposed to be working with the mob to kill Castro. They sent freedom fighters over there and at the last minute JFK chickened out and did not send in air support.

Hoffa had it in for Bobby Kennedy because Bobby was grilling Hoffa in those Senate hearings and he didn't want Bobby Kennedy killed because the worst thing you can do is kill the brother of the most powerful man in the world. So they were going to "cut the head of the dog off."

Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the cousin of Carlos Marcello for a while and Jack Ruby was an associate of Marcello's as well.

Joe Kennedy, their father, built his fortune on bootlegging with the mob and using insider trading to get ahead in the stock market and then ironically was appointed to chair the SCC a couple of years after that. The Kennedy fortune was basically made illegally and was trying to keep his boys off of the backs of the mob but they didn't.

Of course, this all conjecture and no one should put any stock into it but I will tell you what. Research it and You Be the Judge


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We will probably not know until they unlock the secrets about Dallas.


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There are no secrets about Dallas. The secrets died with Carlos Marcello in jail. He is the one person who knew for sure whether the Mafia was involved or not in the assassination.


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Fascinating stuff. Poor Marilyn.

So what are the thoughts on how America's history might have been different had JFK not died? If, as you say, his family clout was built on the back of the mob, would that have meant some shady dealings in the White House, or do you think he would've tried to do an honest job?


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I think the mob would have tried to reach him. They were in cahoots for the attempted assassination of Castro.

However, it is not clear if Bobby or John knew that their father had mob ties and his fortune was amassed through illegal activities. You cannot help but wonder if the brothers knew or heard about it and maybe is why Bobby went after the mob so vehemently.

Author John H. Davis has written many books about the Kennedys and the Mafia. A couple I have read are "Mafia Kingfish" which is about Carlos Marcello and points to ties with the Kennedy assassination. Also, "Mafia Dynasty: The Rise and Fall of the Gambino Crime Family" is another very good book that talks about Papa Joe Kennedy.

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So - this is so intertwined that it would be difficult to sort out if someone wanted to say who for sure was the mastermind behind all the intrique and mystery. Looks like Marilyn was just being used by a lot of people.

What about DiMaggio? Do you think he was involved in all this? He sure kept in tight contact with Marilyn and continued to keep an investigative eye on her for her whole life.


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Of all the things I have learned about the Mafia and Marilyn Monroe, not one time was Joe DiMaggio ever mentioned as to being involved in any way except for being married to her for a time.


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DiMaggio was kind of tight with Sinatra though around that time. After Marilyn and Joe divorced, Joe and Frank kept a tight watch on her and even broke into an apartment trying to catch her with another man (they broke into the wrong apartment) and both were arrested, I think. DiMaggio was extremely jealous and kept tabs on her till her death. This is all according to the author who wrote "Goddess".

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I didn't know that. That is quite interesting. I will have to research that. Thank you, Phyllis.


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You have got to read 'Goddess'. The author, Anthony Summers, is really good and did a thorough investigation with interviews and tons of work. You will find out a lot of shady stuff in the book. And there are a lot of pictures also. The book gives a very different side of DiMaggio then what the public fans saw. He was insanely jealous of Marilyn.

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Remember that famous pose of hers with the white dress as she was standing over a air duct? Joe was very upset that she had done that.

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Joe had said he would not be there, but he did show up and was standing in the crowd. He was furious! It caused a lot of trouble between him and Marilyn.


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