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thanks for that info. i will definitely look that up. that is really great and i hope it's a positive step forward for the CF community!
indigo

wow--and I never even knew we were a "community" until yesterday! love your favorite line too

Kinderfrei,
I was at the doctor's office yesterday and overhead a woman talking about her great dane having 19 puppies!! She said they collectively weighed 200 lbs already, and she was anxious to get rid of them. That's a lot of puppy mass.

Wow...that's pretty cool.

**hijack**

Frieda--19 dane pups is insane!!! i bet they are totally adorable though, and yeah she better find them some homes before they're too big to corral

That was a good Wiki article, only one thing I didn't agree with. It said that: "...suggests that intelligent yuppie couples who remain childless will cause a bad future" which I disagree with. Not having children would cause a much greater future for the whole planet, it's morons pumping out tons of babies that caused the problem!

I have always hated the term "yuppie" - it infers the person is materialistic, shallow and self absorbed.
I know many people regard CF couples as "yuppies"...
I don't mind DINK...
Great we made Wikipedia...nice to see we're called a "community" rather than a cult.
I once heard someone say the CF were a cult - I studied hard at school and university - never really gave my parents or teachers any grief - and now, I'm a member of a cult. Well, that's fabulous!
I don't mind being a member of this cult...we're all pet lovers so no sacrificial lambs for us - perhaps, we could just BBQ some steaks and wash them down with some nice red...sacrificial steak and red wine!

Woohoo! A virtual CF barbecue! I'll bring the dessert...

Obviously, the person who called CF a cult has NO idea what an actual cult is. One of the biggest indicators of a cult is that is has a very charismatic leader, usually one who was "chosen by" the prior leader or was divinely chosen. CF has NO leadership that I've seen, it's all individuals coming to the same conclusion (not having kids is a good idea) through their own thought processes and personal experiences. Cults stomp down thinking and questioning.

I also enjoyed the article!

The cult idea must come from the fact that we have a "community" of sorts now, online and through things like CF meetups. It seems like parents feel threatened by that somehow, like we're banding together for some sort of "cause." I've seen so many comments from parents like "Why do you need groups for that?" like it's weird that we should want to connect with other people who don't have kids. And we get the comments like, "I don't need to be in a group with people who don't have dogs, or don't play golf." It's fine with them to have mommy groups, but god forbid we should have support and friends with similar lifestyles. We're supposed to be suffering after all, pining to be mommies.

*cough* Misery Loves Company *cough*

They just want us to join THEIR group and commiserate. No thanks, I can find more interesting things to be miserable about... and change them out daily if I wish!

I think motherhood is more of a cult because they worship children. Children, the new golden calf ...

You know, they really are the new golden calf...Sure, in the 50's women were expected to stay at home and take care of the family, but it was FAMILY, including the husband who was taken care of. Today, husbands wind up being ignored in favor of the children. People wonder why there's over a 50% divorce rate, it's because they get so wound up in their kids that the adults become strangers and bored with each other. So there it is, family is sacrificed to the children, how ironic.

It's strange how some people see 'a group of unconventional people' = 'a cult'.

Meanwhile from my perspective most other people mindlessly accept the cult of 'you will have children'!

It's really nice to think that I'm part of a different community to that.

By definition, the CF are not a cult, because we have no leaders, and we encourage questioning.

We ARE different, of course. But then sometimes to be your own person, to be true to thyself, you need to not be the herd.

It's a GREAT entry! I loved reading about how much more recognition we're getting!!! It makes me want to recheck my area for CF social groups. I know we had one in Dallas a while back...CookieCody sent me info on it, but I don't know if it still exists. Going to check it out right now.