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That is challenging Christ. He claimed to be the Son of God, He claimed to be God, He claimed there was a God in heaven. He claimed there was a hell. He said all those things.

I'm sorry, but are you calling ME two faced? When you have your own forum within an organization such as Bella Online, you can decide what is safe and acceptable for your participants however you like. I have been extremely gracious and accepting of you in and out of my forum.

As for LL's comments in this forum, If the moderator here decides to set a boundary to protect her participants rights in this Atheist forum, then she is free to do so and everyone will respect that.

What bothers me the most is that in Bible Basics forum, you kiss up, but in other forums you deride me and my character. Which is it, Alex?



When have you done THIS??? Usually you ENTER a discussion and blatently tell everyone (Christian or otherwise) that they are wrong and not nearly as enlightened as you are. THIS is why I asked you to tone it down. Get your facts straight before you decide to try to tear me down publically.

Jenna,
Sorry about interrupting your debate, but I felt I needed to defend myself a little here...

No, I'm not calling you two-faced...not at all..I'm calling the practise of entering other fora and proselytising, but then my choice of not being confrontational which I have tried to be (but sadly failed - for which I have apologised) when i come onto the Christian Forum... two faced...
What I mean is, they can take it out of the Christian forum, and 'preach', but I can't bring it in, and argue. And that was our agreement. And i slipped up. And I'm sorry.
I wasn't calling you two-faced at all. You misunderstood the intention of the comment. or I didn't explain myself very well, more likely.



Agreed, yes you have...
And although I don't have moderator status here, I have tried getting a discussion going in the |Buddhist forum, but nobody want s to come and play over there.... *sulk* and i still don't fully know or understand why....



I have never sought to deride your character either here or anywhere else. as I tried to explain above, the comment wasn't aimed at you, it was the situation...





Where have I ever said that they are wrong, and they are not nearly as enlightened as I am? Really I promise, I have never done that...

I have issue with the existence of God?
Correct.
I have issue with the statement that Jesus is God?
Correct.
I have issued with faith being put forward as proof?
Correct.
But i have said before, and I will always say that I admire and respect those with whom I engage, for the depth and sincerity of their faith.
I would ask that they show the same courtesy for me.

is that too much to ask?

Let's not make this personal....on either side. IMHO.

Alexandra said, "I have had to commence a discursive thread in the Buddhist forum, on biblical content, in comparison to Buddhist teachings, and as yet, I don't think anyone has taken up the baton and run with it... "

Frankly, Alexandra, I don't think that many people are well-versed. Literacy has always been an issue and reading one book or having it read to you weekly is an easy out Reading the three or four Discourses of the Buddha takes a bit of time. I would be surprised if many of the debaters have even read additional books on their topic like The Unknown Sayings of Jesus or the Gnostic Bible.

I can't speak for others in the forum here, but I have read extensively many traditions. I would enjoy discussions on a variety of them, but every conversation seems to be invaded and hijacked by Christian extremists. Seeking or discussing is only allowed, it seems, if they are the center of the discussion.

At one point in my life I was very interested in reading up on all of these different ideas - all this was "on my list", (including the Koran, the Kabbalah, the Gnostics) unfortunately as far as I got with Buddhism was chatting in a pub with my Buddhist friend. I got tired. I decided no more religion/philosophy/conspiracy theory for a while. So, Alexandra, if you'd got me seven or eight years ago, you would have had a much more energetic discussion, and perhaps even an educated one, rather than you having to go over the theory each time. Maybe later.

What made you turn into a believer?

This is great, TD! I am thrilled....
So, apart from the God question, (and goodness knows we've discussed this point) what specific teachings of Buddhism did you reject because you felt they were 'false'?

What is to decide if some beliefs are false? If we say that your religion is false and mine is true, does that have any understanding behind it, or only a position? Who are we to call a religion false unless we are totally acquainted with it? that may take ages. It is not that easy.

I believe that we can not call Christianity a false religion and same for Buddhism. All the religions need tremendous understanding.
why spread hatred and develop more fissures by calling each other false?