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Next you're going to say "God loves the sinner, not the sin".


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That is exactly right. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. God knows the future so He knows the outcome of every decision. Why would He not hate something that harms the ones He loves? Sin harms us either as individuals or collectively.

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Originally Posted By: lovelove
That is exactly right. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. God knows the future so He knows the outcome of every decision. Why would He not hate something that harms the ones He loves? Sin harms us either as individuals or collectively.

With all do respect, and I know you mean well but I don't think anyone is here to be saved. Perhaps if you want to save people try try other religious forums. At least you will know the people already have a penchant for unsubstantiated beliefs. I think as you are no longer debating and now preaching that I am through my discussions with you. That is of course after I explain why your last comments were full of hate.

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I fail to see the hate in LL's post. Maybe you could explain that or are you just doing a drive-by insult?

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Originally Posted By: texasdave7
I fail to see the hate in LL's post. Maybe you could explain that or are you just doing a drive-by insult?

I am of course referring to the other thread.

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Why don't you just respond in this thread to LL's posts in this thread instead of spreading insults all over the place? If LL wants to try and evangelize then she is free to do so. It's a free country and no one is being harmed by her efforts. You may not respond ( or you may) but no one is harming you. Yes, I'm a Christian too.

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How can you say that you love Christ when you kill and rape? The question is whether your desire to change and accept your sins is truly sincere. Attaining salvation is not as simple as claiming that you love Christ after committing sinful acts. Only GOD can grant salvation and if you truly believe in Him and repent then you will be with Him in paradise just as in the case of the good thief.


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Originally Posted By: texasdave7
If LL wants to try and evangelize then she is free to do so. It's a free country and no one is being harmed by her efforts. You may not respond ( or you may) but no one is harming you.


THis is an issue I face with the Moderator of the Bible Basics forum...Just as LL is free to evangelise, and it's a free country, (and I fully endorse and respect her right to do so, BTW....) I have 'had words' and been mildly admonished by said moderator for coming back with discursive arguments and counter-discussion on Bible and faith veracity, as final and definitive. it has been requested that on her forum, the Bible, the existence of God, nor the sanctity of Jesus Christ be challenged, questioned or debated....

But if, as you say, 'It's a free country'... why should Christians be permitted to enter any forum and proselytise and evnagelise, on this premise, but contrarily, discussions of the questioning kind are discouraged in Bible basics fora....Would you say that this is a bit two-faced?

I have had to commence a discursive thread in the Buddhist forum, on biblical content, in comparison to Buddhist teachings, and as yet, I don't think anyone has taken up the baton and run with it...

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Alexandra,
You can challenge Christ all you want. I welcome it.

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I haven't ever challenged Christ. (though many do...) I have said many times that his words echo the sentiments of the Buddha, who was born at least 580 years prior to him... I just challenge the 'Son of God' bit, and the 'God exists' bit as well.
And until you can arrange a sit-down meal and a face to face with the guy, you and i will just have to agree to differ.

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