You certainly do know Her Debbie!!

Patriarchal religions have been afraid of Her since their inception. She poses no boundaries when it comes to love or protection. Her brand of love sees no flaws in all of creation whether it be of this world or the many others that exist.

Sometimes when I have been utterly stupid, careless, ruthless, or any of the other lower states of the human saga, she looks past everything. I have never had a better friend and what makes Her very special to me is that I am required to lean into myself for my own strength as I am able. I don't believe that She has much respect for those that won't stand up and build their own world and lives. She would probably be the first to say that if we all stood up and became what we truly are that She would be glad to leave as She would no longer be needed. That is unhuman love and hard to understand unless you are a mother. That is exactly why she has earned the love of Her own that She does!!! Its like the enlightened people within my family saying," Get it together, Stand up and speak your life and it will happen just as you command it to be."

We are at a time when people must speak which direction that their life will go instead of allowing the outside world to direct their affairs. What is within is eternal. What is without is just another thing like so many others. Sometimes when I want to blame others or circumstances it is usually me that has changes to make within.

I love to read what you say about the Mother, Debbie. You have been birthed into an eternal flame and it never ends. We would never want it to. She has no boundaries in freedom and we will recognize that we also have none either. Blessed Be

Thanks Dave, for commenting.

When I had a closed mind I only believed in my patriarchal religion. I have sinced opened up to other belief systems and I have come to a much better understanding of many things that matter to me. I feel that God is loving and gentle, and I do not fear him. In some religions there is a large fear factor there which is unfortunate, but that is not the case with what I believe or what the priests teach in my church. God loves all people and wants all people to be happy and at peace. I do not feel threatened by my God to do what is right.

The Great Mother is also a very loving entity. I know She exists, now that I have opened my heart and my mind to Her. Many cultures have believed in an Earth Mother. I just needed to open communication with Her in order to find Her. Granted, She's not one to give everything you ask for on a whim or when you may think you need it, because that is not what a good Mother does, and Her desire is that you take the initiative to make your own way. But in regards to something very important for my healing, the Great Mother has heard me and has helped me.

Dave, you are right in that we have to stand up for ourselves, believe in ourselves, and make our existence what is best for who we are. Any good Mother will stand back and let her children grow to be who they are meant to be. Such is the Great Mother, allowing us to be who we desire to be, but if we need Her, She will be there for us.

I am finding a more peaceful place within myself since I have opened my mind to the possibilities of more than I could ever truly understand, that so much of what is important is never seen with the naked eye, but seen instead by the eye inside of us that is knowing of eternal things, the things that never have a beginning or an end. It is my desire to continue to nurture the relationship I have with the Great Mother and all things spiritual. I find more value and truth in these things as opposed to anything going on in the outside world. In opening up to other possiblities besides what I have known for most of my life, I have gained my own inner freedom like I never had before. Blessed Be.

We were brought into this world observing and giving credence to what we see with natural eyes. We have been trained to make ourselves feel better when we have all of the visible things around us in the order that we like.

If I had a nicer car I would be content. A newer set of appliances, a home that was more "me". A family that was more compliant. A better job. On and on and on. All of a sudden we have satisfaction with very little including ourselves.

We have been taught since birth to worship something. To give ourselves away to a force outside of ourselves. Gold, a religious leader, our doctor, teacher, spouse, child, or anyone other than the most valuable person or thing on earth, ourselves. We have been told that we are lesser than any deities as well as other people. Somehow we have woven into our mindset that we ourselves are the most unworthy. They are all greater than us. We need to keep that in mind and stay under that fear and slavery.We are then controllable at the hand of another.

Any deity or personage that needs that much focused support would quickly wither and die if the supporters quit acknowledging their existence.

Unless I esteem me first, no one else on the planet, above or below, can be rightly observed nor can such a circumstance be made life sustainable.

Unless I love me, how can I love another? Unless I respect me, who else can I truly respect? Unless I am whole how can I help others be so.

Could we have the cart before the horse???

Only when I esteem my very being can I really know when another being or force is lying to me.

Only when I observe and esteem myself can I maintain when all around me things are falling apart.

WE are what we see within, not without.

I have no money but I have me! Do I need something else?

I have few real friends but I have me. Do I need lots of others and less of me?

My being, my health, and my satisfaction comes from within me and not from another person or circumstance.
Some say, Dave you are so cocky!!

As I observe who is telling me that I look at all of the forces and people around my accusers and see how much they are stealing from them even without their knowledge. They blindly give themselves away.

I am nothing more than a lanky Iowa plow jockey and certainly no better than another but if the entire world crashes down around me I might just have the ability to maintain and survive. That is built within me as well as every human on earth but it takes responsibility and some guts.

WE allow everything else to take what we have or we stand in us and be a truly productive force on this earth without fear yet forging ahead. Blessed Be

Bravo, Dave. I could not have said it better myself. Before we look around us for support and love we need to look within. We can stand alone and stand strong. Blessed Be.

The family reunion was about to take place. Probably about 100 to 125 people would show up from all parts of the country but usually they were mostly from a 50 to 100 mile radius. The kids would be racing about the house yard. The women would be inside talking, cooking, or whatever and the men would be outside usually in the machine sheds looking at and talking about farming and the latest farm implements. The old timers would be under the shade trees sitting in their fold up lawn chairs.

This is the group of people that I wanted to be with. Usually they would touch on the subject of religion or the status of worldly conditions or how corrupt were the youth of the day. I waited for the time when a few of "my" people broke away from the rest of them.

Those few sojourners gathered in a quiet part of the barn or house yard and began to speak of "other" things. I don't remember them ever speaking at length about the Great Mother, just an occasional reference to "Her". I know that we spoke of things that most of the rest of the family would not understand.

They were all good people except for the occasional clunker relative that is issued to every family but for the most part were solid upper midwest farm people.

We few were immediately quickened by speech that was from not within the scope of natural human understanding but of the world of the spirit. Now when I think of it we never used such terms as the spirit world or one that was different than what was in normal conversation yet we just knew what we spoke when we spoke it. Words like, "we're not from here", or "we never were" were used occasionally. We few knew that it was understood that most people were programmed by their surroundings to believe that this illusion was their reality. As we spoke we could begin to see and read our surroundings.

The cows were as close to us as they could be yet avoiding the electric fence. The dogs all stood or sat around us as it seems that they didn't want to miss anything that was spoken. Every one of those animals were keenly aware of every word spoken by us.We saw the energy above the trees. We saw the hand in the wind stirring up the grain in the field. We saw that the family farm and the family unit that we all knew back then would someday be gone. We saw things that we could never speak to the others because they would just simply never understand.

I am trying to paint an accurate picture as close to how I remember it for a reason here. I believe that in these days we need to gather to talk of other worlds. Our family reunions were just a vehicle for our meeting but it could have happened anywhere just in an unrushed setting. We knew as we started speaking that we were not a part of this world and yet we were the driving force that guided this natural world.

Spiritual people are still the leaders of thought from which our existance is kept in order and kept on the correct track avoiding human destruction. When the few that are supposed to be there, speak, there is all of a sudden no weather, no relatives, no crops, in fact none of the visible things were the subject of our conversation. We spoke of the eternal and its vastness and we began to see the real from this illusion called life on earth.

Some reading these very words do not understand and for this reason many suffer. Uninspired man has no future and becomes self destructive. I have been told that we spiritual are so spirit-world oriented that we are of no earthly good. What earthly good is man when all he has to speak of is what he sees with his natural eyes? Each one of us has to have more to our conversations than the topic of our grandkids, our church, our job, our garden, etc. We need some "substance" in our lives to exist or we really don't need to be here. How many dreams die within people because our converstaions are monopolized by substituting "things" with the real substance known as the eternal and our potential??? There comes a time when I don't care how my kids are, I don't care how my friends are, I don't even care about what is going on all around me, I just need to speak and reap the substance of my reality spoken and who I really am. Why is it that a little sparrow or a gray squirrel can perceive of these things yet we humans are extraordinarily limited in our perceptions. Staying "in the box" will not sustain life especially in the world today.

Staying in denial or substituting drugs, in any form, alcohol, or addictions that bind the human spirit instead of inquiry or allowing for growth within ones self is futile and eventually destructive. There is "MORE" to us!! Blessed Be

Thanks Dave, for another great post.

There definitely IS more to people than what they see about themselves, or even desire to see. I can say from first hand experience that once I opened my internal "eyes" I began to see so much more about life and love, and it goes way beyond what I physically see around me. Because of it I have more peace.

I agree with you that the peaceful and the spiritual among us keep humanity from destroying itself, which is not all that hard in this day and age considering the path that humanity is on. And yes, addictions do destroy people, a sad fact. They have no inner peace.

I wonder if the Great Mother laughs or cries at what She sees. All I know is that she has been of enormous help and comfort to me since I opened my mind and heart to Her. She's there for us all if we'd just let Her in. Blessed Be.

Dave, Debbie and All Lovers of the infinite potential of the human spirit, soul, aura or whatever you want to call it,

We are just scratching the surface... peaking our head above the clouds so to speak.

Nature is put here to train even the most dullard of souls.

Yet, man is above nature in the kingdoms and nature travails awaiting the birth of the God-Man and God-Woman.

The ancient mystery schools taught that " Man is God - The God of very Gods "

Yet, under the aegis of The Father.

Co-creators are we and that is one hell of a responsibility -- like it or not.

The last 100 years or so of the whirl of mechanical and technological progress are actually substitutes for the tremendous powers within the psyche of man and woman.

So millenia ago we had the war of the gods of which Easter Island is the remnant.

The fall is simply a fall in vibration since all things in the universe vibrate at a certain frequency.

The fall also created the outer egoistic expression as in This is my name, this is my job, these are my physical attributes -- which mean absolutely nothing for this is dust.

Each struggle without is actually a struggle within to find and become the god that you already are.

Separation is an illusion.

We are, have been and always will be one with the spirit.

Yet we reside in matter ( Latin for Mother ) and are gestating baby gods and native to the universe.

Mother Nature leads her children and teaches them softly, patiently and sweetly until they get that boot in the butt to " Go Be ".

Just Be who you already are.

Yet this offends those who are ego-based to the nth degree.

They will kill you and beat you, rather than admit the you are god and they are god and they can get the same and more of " the stuff " you have both materially and spiritually by simply asking.

But no, their jealousy of your spiritual and material gains makes you something they set their teeth out to destroy !!!

So be it.

The Universe and the Great Mother work on precise mathematical laws that are inviolate and above and beyond human opinion.

The Dark Ones know these laws intimately and use them to control the masses because they know that we are connected to The Source of All Life and they have been cut off.

Yet we don't know who or what we are.

How foolish -- " Ye are Gods All Sons of the Most High "

How many years and suffering and pain must we endure until " We Get It ".

Yet The Dark Ones pervert the very orifices of your liberation.

All orthodox religions are simply political and financial money-making machines.

Fear and Superstition and Guilt is an excellent weapon to keep you from your true self and has worked for centuries so why change it ?

Don't study the occult, don't study divine astrology -- that's the devil's work you know...

Yeah but God set it up first, and they know it works regardless so they don't want you to know the true laws and science of God because then you will have the upper-hand and be able to expose the paper tigers and rats in the granary bin !!

Mother is being raped daily yet she will repay.

Are tornadoes and floods and fire just a happenstance ?

No, this is her wrath against the violations of harmony.

Life requires balance and harmony.

Yet we are co-creators -- do you really think that it was god's plan to have mosquitoes and flies as part of his creation ?

Nay... these are but the manifestation of human hatred and ego-competition because man and woman are in a higher kingdom and what they say and do and think and vibrate at becomes manifest as the elemental builders of form take orders from us.

Don't like the planet ?

Don't like how society is acting ?

Guess what... we created it and we have to un-create it if we want something different.

But hate, kill, murder and maim and pay astronomical amounts of money for human competition and $35,000 a day to a model whose beauty fades... keep at it and the harmony of the mother will crack this planet in two !!!

Go ahead and idolatries the ego that dying part which leads to nothingness -- invest your energy in that... glory, honor, pride, physical beauty... it's been going on for centuries... where had it gotten us ?

Oh yes, planet earth has lost her wedding garment yet the constellations have struck and now is the time to be or not to be.

So, all the pain and suffering and the turn of events...

We created it.

It is meant to teach your personal violations of cosmic law... not to punish.

So we're a stubborn and recalcitrant lot are we...

Yet we are not totally and completely responsible for all of the mess here.

There are ones who know that God Exists as Father and Mother and who hate them with a passion.

They know that money controls life here so for generations they have locked that down to control the children and sons a daughters of god.

Take their time, their territory and their wealth and freedom then they will not have the resources to worship gods goddesses and become them.

Remember, we were created higher than those who fell yet we are na�ve babes thrown to the wolf because what we need to know to attain our immortal freedom has been used and abused by the ones who would annihilate our very existence !!

So be it.. their time will come to be removed.

Yet, their writings flourish and others take up where they left off....

So become a christ or a black magician... your choice.

And The Mother's gentle wind still blows gently and the squirrel busy themselves, and the ants work together.. and the plants grow and the cats play even in this vail of tears.

So who has a clue ?

Egoistic man who has used a small sub-set of the beautiful and intricate cosmic laws of the universe based upon Love as a battering ram to get what he wants out of this temporary and ephemeral material existence ?

Or the Gods and goddesses who have for time immortal used the infinite laws of Love, Wisdom and Power properly the navigate the microcosm and the macrocosm of which ye are babes and becoming spiritually and materially grown up ?

Well...

Politics and Egos aside... who shall win the race of immortal life ?

The humble servant of ye all.

Ego Death is inevitable.

Spiritual Birth is a painful process !!

And here we are... helpmates to eachother yet scorned and hated by most.

In time they too will come to the understanding that we create our own heavens and our own hells.

Compassion is the key.

Each one will render an accounting.

Human justice is important to keep society functioning...

Yet, Divine Justice is much more accurate.

Do not bother yourself with the seemingly injustices they are all an out playing of free-will.

You can use a hammer to build a house or to kill someone.

You can use a computer to maim and kill millions or to enlighten yourself as to how the universe really works with such awe and beauty as to be incomprehensible !!!

Burt.....you've given us lots of good information for us to ponder. Thanks for sharing it with us.

We have created that which is around us, whether we like it or not. And only we can fix it or it will only get worse. We all have so much within us, so much to give. If only all of us could see the value within each life and the beauty that we all have inside of us. The Mother sees it and She is hoping that we do the right thing. She does want balance back because the scales have been tipped by greed, jealousy, and the desire for material wealth.

If only we'd realize that we already have all that we need. Blessed Be.

Lots of good information Burt!!!! When I was young we never had such a thing as a computer, cell phone, Ipad,pod or any of the rest of it but technology has certainly opened up the eyes of mankind and allowed us to see all sides of a situation. You touch on some very deep toughts and it is obvious that your posts are well thought-out. Deep thinkers are very misunderstood and sometimes shunned from society simply because many people have only certain selected thoughts that they allow in their consciousness. How sad and life altering is that situation!!! They live without ever having been alive. Burt, when you and I cash it in we will never be able to say that we were restricted in our thoughts or expressions. GOOD POST MAN!!!! My thanks to you also Debbie. You are one COOL lady!!! dave

Thanks, Dave. You are pretty cool yourself.

I learned a lot from you, whether you realize it or not. I appreciate all that you do to share what you know with us. Your participation here on the Goddess thread makes it what it is today, a place to be free with our thoughts and a place to discover and explore more about who we are, and who the Great Mother is.

I agree that deep thinkers are misunderstood. I am one myself, and I think some people view me as some kind of whack-nut. I don't really care. I realize that I have gifts that others don't, and I know things that others don't. Their lifestyle does not interest me, striving to gain the almighty dollar so they can be like the people in the upper echelons with the fancy cars, houses, electronics, and trips. Competition, ambition, and moving up.....it's so cold. There is no concern for what is within, but only for what is on the outside, what material things they can show others that they have, what position in life that can feed their ego.

It took me a long time to do so, but I wholeheartedly accept myself for my deep thinking, intense emotions, immense love, and compassion for others. I'm even a little psychic too. I am proud of who I am, as you gentlemen should be of yourselves as well. We know where true value lies and where the answers are for peace and fulfillment.......it lies within. Blessed Be.