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#271103 - 10/04/06 03:30 PM
Re: Christians and Pornography
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Gecko
Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 403
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I appreciate your reply, but I cannot credit you as a "reliable source".
I am not saying that you are not reliable, but you are not a reliable source supporting this allegation for two reasons.
First, your information does not support this claim. You mention 7 men that you claim to personally know to be addicted to pornography. I am not a Christian, but even I know more than 14 Christian men. Your information does not appear to support a claim of a 50% rate among men; you mention no women at all, therefore you fail as a reliable source supporting a claimed 20% addiction rate among women.
Additionally, among those whom you claim personal knowledge of their addiction, some are men as to whom you may have reason to have a less than unbiased view - an ex-husband you left and a current husband you have problems with.
Secondly, your example of the priest who claims 50% of his congregation are addicted is certainly invalid as hearsay. He has told you something about another claiming it to be true. This sort of 'he said that he said' is known as so unreliable that it may not even be heard, let alone credited as reliable, in a legal setting.
Anecdotal evidence has very little use. As an example, let me assure you that of all the smokers I personally know (some hundreds of people - yes, I know a lot of people) only one has ever died of lung cancer. Based on this, can we assume that there is only a very insignificant link between smoking and lung cancer?
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#271108 - 10/10/06 06:08 PM
Re: Christians and Pornography
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Gecko
Registered: 09/26/06
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Takes away from the point?
I'm sorry. When someone says: "What are your feelings about the statistics: 50% of Christian men and 20% of Christian women are addicted to porn." the numbers are the point.
This was the question asked in the initial post.
if the numbers are false, it changes the entire complexion of the argument concerning porn addiction.
Usually an argument such as "50%, 10% or 25% what does it really matter?" means that the alleged statistics cited are completely insupportable.
This ties inextricably to "it causes alot of heartache for alot of people", well, not so many people as you may think. Because If the numbers are actually 1% for men and so low as to be unmeasurable for women it's a whole different discussion. In this case, it's not really a lot of people at all is it?
As to the allure porn being so strong that merely seeing one picture causes addiction, I think if this were true, we would be talking numbers more like 100%, for I would guess, this is a guess not a statistic, that every man has seen a picture of a naked women, the intent of which picture was sexual.
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#333838 - 08/11/07 04:23 PM
Re: Christians and Pornography
[Re: Diana Pederson]
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Newbie
Registered: 08/11/07
Posts: 4
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Hello to all! I am new here and was reading some of the content about Christians and Pornography. I do not believe people who are porn seekers have a pure heart of Christ and it is satanic.I believe pornography comes from the minds of those who have extremely low self esteem and are burden with other self detructive issues. As a teenager my husband was introduced to pornograhpy by his dad! YES, that's what I said, and how sick is that?? His dad thought it would help to teach him manly acts. Why or how could he do that? We cannot even phathom the thought of introducing pornography to our children. We are doing everything possible to raise them on a Christ like path. We are born again, spirit filled Christians and have had much counseling due to this issue as the pornography addictin my husband had leaked over and over agian. I can tell you I am totally against pornography. I am here to tell you it nearly destroyed my marriage. I argued with my husband (now totally clean but had an addiction to it)for years that it was wrong. He would always use the ole "but I'm not doing it in the flesh" or "it's just adding spice to my mind so when I'm with you". I could not agree!! It was an excuse!! 10 years ago, finally he was broken with prayer. He prayed what ever it takes, God, to be freed from it. And it worked. But it was an enormous struggle we went thru to get over it. We have been married 20 years now, and a book was published about it and the details to all this, ironically the book is named after his prayer "What Ever It Takes,God" by John Oarc. If you are in need of real life story and help to overcome the obstacles in your marriage, ie: pornograhy, adultery, pain and the struggle of forgivenessgive...give his book a try. Faith Up- No matter how long you stuggle!!
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