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#239297 04/07/06 02:40 AM
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I think, if we're all honest, there have been times in our lives when we've all been needy, and energy vampires ourselves, without realising it, to a greater or lesser extent. But thankfully, we recognise it, acknowledge it and let it go. It is only through recognition of it in us, that we can truly perceive it in others..... and it is only by seeing it in others that maybe, our little lightbulb comes on, and we realise....
"Oh, Man!! I think I used to do that.....!"
Hence my post earlier on interconnectedness....
Here's a bit of a pointer for you, if it helps.....

An EV is basically someone who has so much going on in their minds, they can't see the wood for the trees, and in an effort to untangle it all, attempt to offload it onto others whom they perceive are far more capable than they are of carrying the load. But then, that's it. They really DO want to offload...they want somebody else to carry the can....
Because every single time anyone offers a viable, reasonable, logical and workable solution to the problem, they will always - BUT ALWAYS - come back with the classic rejoinder....

"Yes, But....."

And they'll plant a great big fat personal objection - hurdle, preventative measure - as to why that too, couldn't possibly work....

THEY don't want to solve their problem.... THEY don't want to have to do any work, or make any effort, or change anything they're doing, to improve things..... "YOU'RE" supposed to do that - !!

Very often, they'll continue with rejoinder # 2:
"Yes, but - WHAT IF.....?" and they put a dreadful imaginary plan-wrecker in the way....
Nobody ever answers the 'what if?' bit....
So make them answer it....
"Yes, ok, What if....? What's the worst that can happen?"

That makes them step back and think.... But you'll get more yessbutts, and whatifs all the way down the line.....
Keep challenging them. Put the ball in their court.
One of two things will happen:

They will actually slowly begin to 'see sense' and start crawling out of this pit of despair, or

They'll call you, less and less and less......

"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, yet still expecting a different result...."

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Patience & Michelle, don't start to feel guilty now about what you may or may not have done in the past. As Alexandra points out we have all done it at least a little at some point. Most people do not deliberately drain others & if you are ill then loved ones naturally tend to donate energy. We can use past mistakes to learn from though.

Now you are aware of this possibility you can take self-responsibilty for your energy needs. When you find other ways to strengthen your own energy, like good diet, healthy exercise, enough sleep, fresh air, getting a healing and so on, you stop dragging on others & this can only improve your relationships for the future.

Think from now on about where your energy is coming from & where it is going to.

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I knew an energy werewolf once. Big, hairy and a bit...oh sorry, wrong forum* I think we'll just leave it there.

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My question was, is an energy vampire the same thing as a psychic vampire?, but then I read DarlingPoor's post! Recently when I had my aura photographed, the man said with the aura being yellow, I was going to attract psychic vampires. A Big Red Flag went up! I screeched "OMG! are these real people or only energy? Because if they are not real I am screwed!!!" I had visions of invisible things getting me, somehow, and when he stopped chuckling he told me that they are real people, and I Know Them. He is right. When I get around them, which I avoid, I am unhappy and annoyed, and I leave. It took years before I recognized this in people. BTW I have been married to one for over twenty years. The only way I can deal with it is to keep conversation to a minimum <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, but he is gone a lot, and I don't talk much, so that works.

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Thank goodness in the main they are real people & you can take steps to avoid them (though marrying one can make this a bit tricky- often they will be very clingy and can drag you down!)

I have come across accounts of some who have passed over but remain clinging on to the person they 'fed from' in life. In that situation they very firmly need directing to the Light!

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I believe that energy vampires aren't always aware of what they are....or are doing.
I have this issue with them everyday....I don't know how many lessons I'm supposed to learn from this experience because we live together. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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This thread reminds me of Stephen King's novel "Insomnia". There were creatures, both on this plane and "higher up" that would suck the energy from others.

It talked about how many people would do it without realizing it. I wonder if Mr. King had studied psychic vampires, or thought he was making this up on his own? <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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#239304 04/12/06 02:58 AM
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This is why it's important to realise that to some degree or another, we've all done it, and been there....

I'm going to stick my neck out here, and say something that I certainly learnt for myself - though I strongly resisted this notion for a while, because actually, the lesson was painful -

People treat us in specific ways because we give them permission to do so. We let them.

Communication is a two-way street. If someone thinks they can get away with doing something, given the 'right' signals, they will. And until they receive the signal to do otherwise, they'll keep right on doing it.
So we can complain all we like that we're surrounded by these vampires, and that we live with them and that they drain us...
But if it's a repetitive pattern, then it's always the same lesson. And someone isn't getting it.

As I said above, Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and hoping for a different result. That goes as much for the "Receiver" as the "Giver"......

If we want the patterns of other people to change, then WE have to change the signals we give them.

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This thread reminds me of Stephen King's novel "Insomnia". There were creatures, both on this plane and "higher up" that would suck the energy from others.

It talked about how many people would do it without realizing it. I wonder if Mr. King had studied psychic vampires, or thought he was making this up on his own? <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Do you know I think a lot of authors and artists pick up information consciously or subconsciously on a psychic level and that is their inspiration. I don't go for Stephen King though- too scary for me <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> there's enough of that stuff to deal with in normal life!

Alexandra makes an excellent point about changing the signals we give. We aren't helpless victims, we can learn & change and it is a two way process.

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I know this is a bit off-topic, so i apologise...
But I have a real problem with movie-makers who make deliberately violent, horrifying, frightening, distasteful and "negative" movies... or Authors who write books of this genre... I know and understand that there's a market for them - but there's a difference between reading or watching, and actually being responsible for their creation or publication...
There is no question in my mind that these people are very talented, but -
What on earth makes the likes of Quentin Tarantino and Stephen King Tick? What on earth makes them want to create something that will turn people's stomachs? <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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