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I just finished doing a shoot for a hockey league today and it really made me think about the difference between the discipline there and the lack of discipline at school shoots.

At schools I have to be very careful not to correct any behaviors. Some classes are good, others the kids are out of control and won't listen. Teachers stand there saying little. Having been around kids so much I used the skills I have to get the kids to behave, listen and stand still long enough to get a group picture done. These schools called to complain about me so now I have to get the kids to stand and listen in a nice quiet voice and heaven forbid I point out a child and ask him to behave for two seconds.

Today was great, coaches were getting the kids to listen and I could use a firm voice to get them to line up when they only wanted to screw around.

I am presently looking for options for my kid as I am not impressed with the lack of discipline in schools, what are your thoughts about school discipline?

Are schools too lenient with our children? single choice

Yes (100%, 2 Votes)

No (0%, 0 Votes)

Total Votes: 2 Voting on this poll ends: 11/22/05 09:37 PM

Which Type of Discipline tools do you use multiple choice

Time Outs (22%, 2 Votes)

Taking away priviledges or things (33%, 3 Votes)

Spanking (11%, 1 Votes)

Grounding (33%, 3 Votes)

Nothing (0%, 0 Votes)

Other (0%, 0 Votes)

Total Votes: 9 Voting on this poll ends: 11/22/05 09:37 PM

The major problem with school discipline has been caused by (some- a lot) parents. So many parents caused such an uproar over schools actually disciplining their children, that most schools are hamstrung now; and a lot of the kids know it! Especially the ones that are the biggest trouble makers.

My niece had a girl last year harrassing her (basically stalking her). She would threaten, reach out and "thump" or flick her, kick rocks at her, throw balls at her, trip her, etc. One day when she told her she was going to bring a knife and cut her, Megan didn't bother telling the teacher (because the teacher had only been putting her in time out) she went straight to the principle.

The principle suspended her for the day; and HE told us he heard the mother asking her daughter if she wanted to go to McDonald's for lunch!!!!

A 17 yr old had to do community service for shop-lifting, so they called our church and asked if there was anything she could do. My mother runs the kitchen there. So she said she could use some help. The first day the poor little girl had to take some trash to the dumpster. She promptly called her mother to complain. Her mother immediately came to pick her up saying she thought her daughter would be helping to cook, not pick up garbage; and left with her!

Those schools complained about you, because parents complained (or they knew they would). It's ridiculous; so many parents expect the school system to raise their kids and turn them into proper adults, but then won't allow them all the tools with which to do it. If they are not going to late the schools discipline, then they need to be doing some of it at home themselves!

The problem of school violence is spreading up here in Canada too. We've had one school shooting, right after columbine, not as big as columbine. We moved to the burbs after our son was born to try to avoid the problems of the inner city. This year a house was condemned because the pot growing operation inside destroyed the house. On a seperate occasion a gang member was arrested here. Our community has a number of police living in it, there are 4 on my block alone, still the problem spreads. Compared to other neighbourhoods in the city our is still safe, but for how long? Who's to blame..... police, governments, teachers, TV, video games???? No... Parents and their lack of discipline and time. The first questions when I heard about the tv show boot camp was how did it get this way? Where was the discipline when they were young? Did they buy them everything they wanted? The TV shows about the Nanny's coming in and straightening out the family are popular, but do the parents that watch it adopt the discipline techniques or do they watch it and feel better because their kids aren't that bad.

I went to see a friend today and she was frazzled like usual trying to get caught up on the housework. While I was there she made her eldest's bed and then when he got home from school she had to drive him back because he forgot his homework at school...

My mother was like this too, did everything for us, still does. Can we do too much for our kids? I told her I thought she should leave his bedroom for him and let him fail the science test tomorrow. She looked at me like I was crazy, but am I? By doing everything for our kids, do we help them or do we hinder them? How will they learn if we keep bailing them out?

I guess it depends on how old he is and if he has any "special" circumstances. I would say no matter what, he can make his own bed (well, unless there's is a physical reason preventing it). Depending on age, like K-1st grade I might be a little lenient about going back to get supplies, but after that, he needs to start learning.

We are preparing our children for growing up, if we do EVERYTHING for them, then they'll be like these reality shows "Kicked Out" - where the grownup child is 27 and still mooching off the parents. (I realize that's an exageration for not making up the bed, but you've got to start somewhere.)

I agree, this particular child is in Grade 4.

We need to teach our kids responsiblity. I always taught the kids I cared for and my own that they were responsible for their own things. I wasn't their pack horse and they had to find whatever toy they were missing. If they left their socks in the basement, they had to go and get them.

I call myself the mean mommy, but my kids are responsible and respectful at a very young age.

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Today's school environment is scary sometimes.Anyone have any horror stories to share about what problems kids are facing in their schools?