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Another day, another question. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I've been prescribed an enormous amount of ibuprofen daily for one week, to help treat a chronic muscle (leg/hamstring) injury. I am to take 1,800 mg a day!! (I�ll also be doing physical therapy.)

Now, I'm a person who doesn't like to take ibuprofen at all, and I typically only take 200mg or so when I'm really, really in pain.

I'm supposed to split the doses into three a day, taken with meals. But I'm still a little worried about the toxicity.

Are there holistic approaches that I can take while I'm on this high dose to help protect my system?

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A short time use should not be an issue unless you have had an episode of aspirin poisoning. Do you normally take lots of vitamin E and/or other essential fatty acid supplements that may thin your blood? Ibuprophen is better than steroids as a treatment regimen of the anti-pain anti-inflammatory type. If you have pain relief taking less than prescribed then you may certainly take less....Lots of elderly take that much for daily pain relief and are doing OK...Tylenol destroys your liver , vicodin is addictive, codiene makes lots of folks earpy...it is always something. It is amazing how fast one improves with the physical torture...uh,therapy! Good luck; I hope you are better in time for the next holiday rush or can use it for an excuse not to rush...


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Hi Chris,

You can take milk thistle (Silymarin)+ drink 8-10 glasses of water a day to help eliminate toxic drugs from your liver and kidneys. Water also reduces pain, as does vitamin C and calcium and potassium, and B-vitamins, too, but the best approach is prevention...

I would ask whomever prescribed it why such a high dose? It is your right as a client to know why you're being prescribed a particular med, why the dosage, what are the side effects and what are the alternatives. It your health care provider doesn't provide that, I'd find someone who does.

Ibuprophen is associated with more gastrointestinal damage than was first thought. My brother-in-law nearly died taking Advil and aspirin; he had a GI hemorrhage. Pain meds are only to be taken if you need them and they're not to be messed with, so if you don't need them, don't take them.

The fact you got an injury says to me you were probably either overdoing something, not moving properly, don't get enough stretching and toning exercise, malnourished in some way or under a lot of stress.

The best prevention (next time) is not to overdo, make sure you get enough vitamins and minerals by eating a diet focused on whole grains, legumes, and fresh fruits and vegetables. You probably also need additional vitamin C, calcium, magnesium and boron to keep your bones and connective tissue strong. Look into yoga, tai chi or some kind of exercise that includes stretching and toning to help strengthen your body.

Hope this helps,

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A couple of things occurred to me...arnica montana is a homeopathic remedy that is VERY effective for post surgical pain and bruising It comes in BBs and a gel. I am a HUGE fan of homeopathy....

The other thing is that as you seldom use pain killers; a much smaller dose will be effective for you than say me Because I routinely take 1800MGs of Ibuprophen for my kness and hands...so just because he wants you to take that much does not mean you will require that much...and please do consider the arnica. When I moderated at Pleiades we had a highly respected Breast Reduction forum and arnica was highly recommended by that group as being effective...


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Thank you for the wonderful information, Roni and Carolyn! As you can see, I temporarily forgot that I had posted this question - because I ended up deciding not to take that much IB everyday as my doctor had prescribed.

It was my understanding that it was prescribed to reduce inflammation, because I really wasn't in that much pain.

However, interestingly, it turned out that I didn't even have any inflammation(!). The doctor was assuming that I probably had a pulled muscle of some kind, and so there was probably inflammation.

It turns out that I have a labral tear in my hip joint. My understanding is that the labrum is cartilage that encases the hip joint, helping to cushion and protect the joint.

After I first posted here, I went to three months of physical therapy, assuming I had some kind of muscle strain or pull. After those three months, my therapist advised that I go to a specialist and see if I could get an MRI for a real diagnosis.

I went to a sports medicine doctor who ordered an MRI for me - with a painful dye injection first (yuck). The MRI films clearly show a little flap of cartilage at my hip joint. When I move my leg in certain ways, the flap gets pinched by the joint and causes the pain. Luckily, I'm not in pain all the time, and I'm actually in less pain after the MRI because apparently the dye pushed on the flap so that it's not getting pinched as much.

Ironically, I believe this injury actually happened during yoga, from twisting my torso forward with my back foot pointed out to the side - as in Warrior I. That hip is very inflexible in that direction, for some reason (even though I'm a pretty limber person otherwise). I was doing a lot of yoga at the time of the injury, and I think I pushed myself too hard. It's not that I was doing the positions incorrectly - it's that I should have been doing some "alternate" positions to protect that inflexible hip.

At least that's my personal theory. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I don't have a lot of options as far as treatment goes. There is no way to actually repair these tears. If you're in a lot of pain, you can have the cartilage flap cut away and removed (no more pinching). However, you really have to be careful with the joint for the rest of your life because you don't have as much cushioning of your joint in that location anymore. But that issue applies whether or not you get the surgery.

So my sports medicine specialist has recommended that I not do anything until/unless it really starts to bother me pain-wise. He also advised that I refrain from exercise or activities that are jarring on my hip - like running. Some doctors theorize that if you get these tears, you are much more likely to develop arthritis - eventually needing a hip replacement.

However, my doctor disagrees with that - with the caveat that I only do low-impact activities. That wasn't the happiest thing for me to hear, since I'm only 33. I was hoping (and expecting) that I would be able to have some surgery that would completely correct the problem.

But - the news could have been much worse, and, to be honest, I've always hated running anyway! <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> So, life goes on. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm going to try to stay with a supplement regimen that includes glucosamine, and also some of the other supplements you mentioned here in the thread.

Thank you again for the great information, I really appreciate it!

Chris


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Try to eat antiinflammatory food like garlic,alfalfa,onion, or take ginger tea more frequently.Eat raw honey. Use more raw onion in your diet. <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" />Remember than more than four cloves of garlic per day can damage your liver. And be careful of don't overuse too much ginger. <img src="/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" /> It can provoke gallstones. Try to find other antiinflammatory herbs and food (chammomile etc) be wise in the quantity and the blend of them <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/king.gif" alt="" />

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There is a book
http://www.inflammationsyndrome.com/
which explain that inflammation is something that could be combat naturally. You should try to find more stuff in google about
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I also found this really useful list of anti-inflammatory foods here: http://www.metabolismadvice.com/anti_inflammatory_food/

Worth adding some to your diet to help control your inflammation.


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