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This piece is something I wrote a while ago, yet I still have the same questions. I have never shared these thoughts, for fear that someone would not quite see what i was asking, or perhaps be threatened by the constant questioning. Please, please do share your views, however you feel, I merely want to share these and thoughts with others, that perhaps through the sharing, my own answers my be revealed to me.

Sometimes I just wish I could glimpse through the eye of the truth, just a mere second, for it to all be understood.


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I'm scared, that I'll spend my whole life searching and never truly find. Spend my life believing my feelings, only to find that I missed the truth somewhere down the line.

Spend my life loving and obeying My Lord, only to fall short and be condemned to the fires of hell. I'm scared of a Lord that would do such a thing, if the truth of my soul be known.

Now I don't want to spend another precious moment that I have left here on earth doubting that God exists, I believe that You do, without a doubt in my soul, but what God would I make of You?

You are love, first and foremost and all loving elements that follow, compassion, kindess, forgiveness, and I know that the only fear in my heart that i have, is that i should ever lose You. That would be a dagger to my soul.

And how do I please You? by trying to be more like You as best as I can? in obedience? But then the thought of heaven and hell enters my mind and I search my mind for a reason to find, why my Father of love would banish one of His children to the fires of hell for being a mortal human being?

Some of us Father don't realise, not all of us find a wisdom, not all of us get it right the first time round.

And if indeed we are given this one life in which to learn and grow, within the parametres that we have been placed in, then some of us will surely fall short.

And what of these souls that don't come to You? What of my brothers and sisters that lead a blinded life, full of sin and evil, never awakening the truth within them? Will they be punished? Will I be punished for my own sins?

Will we be made to pay for what society has created? would it not have been different had our society been far more evolved? and we all grew knowing the meaning of love, understanding and compassion? Then punish for what we do not know or have the strength to overcome?

Father you teach us to love our enemies, that if someone strikes us once, then we should offer the other cheek. And if we are to have this constant forgiving quality, do You Father have this also? Why then are we taught of a Lord that punishes us for our sins? Are not some souls more evolved than others? Are not some souls more in need of love and understanding than others?

And if we should love our enemies, would You Father do the same? and should the devil exist, would you love him? And if lucifer did exist in heaven and You loved him, why then did love not save the day? why was it that Our Lord's love could not heal Lucifer of these traits of evil and jealousy? And why a war in heaven? where You really under threat? surely not, for surely nothing can harm You.

I have questions Father, unanswered question, and in truth my soul does not make you a Father of such things.

My Father, My Lord is unique, love without condition, a Lord without flaws, compassionate and kind without human comprehension. i don't believe You require us to do anything, for a requirement from us would deem You dependable and weaken the Lord that I believe You are.

Perfect is your form Father and sometimes I wonder why You created us. Then I wonder why I would want to give life, to bring forth a child, and I wonder whether it is because I love my husband so much and have so much love inside of me that I would wish to share this love .. could this be your reasoning aswell? That you wanted to share yourself to experience with your children the perfectness of Your love?

Then I wonder what would my child's purpose be? To be loved without condition by me and to give that love out freely to others, for my child would receive it freely from me.

I would be a human God to this child and teach them that I too have a human mother and father, but collectively, as human beings, we all share the same Father and come form the same seed. And that Father created us so that we could share His love. The same way I would give physical birth to my child, Our Father gives spiritual birth to our souls.

And whatever that child did, whether it be deemed good or bad, I would continue to love my child without condition and reflect, as best as I could, my Lord's love unto my child.

How then would I explain to that child the concept of heaven and hell without igniting fear into my child's heart? would they not then be introduced to the idea of failure? would that not then manefest negative thoughts and persceptions, and would that not then change their idea of Our Ultimate Father?

What kind of God would they then make of You?


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very good article Goosie...You should think about submitting it to the Christianity Host...Now who is she again??? lol.... <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Dear Goosie,

Thank you for your heartfelt post, full of spiritual questions of one whose feet are moving steadily down her path to God-realization.

For me the answers to those questions are answered by Paramahansa Yogananda. I started with his Autobiography of a Yogi. I can't guarantee that this great spiritual teacher would appeal to you, but I do know that as your quotation says, you will find your teacher (spiritual leader or as we call it "guru") when you are ready.

Again thank you for posting.

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Dear Spiritual Host,

I believe everyone can teach me/us something to help with our enlightenment. I believe that when we cross paths that we have gifts to give to each other, whether it be knowledge or otherwise. It would be foolish of me to disregard the teachings of others, but rather to read them and discover whether they align with my own truth.

To this end, your guidance is invaluable and a blessing. Perhaps I will read Paramahansa Yogananda and discover that I do not believe anything that is written, however, that will still have taught me much about what i do believe.

I get a sense that you can almost see me walking down my path. Don't quite know why. It's a spiritual sensitivity. Thank you. You have certainly left me with a warm feeling inside.

Blessings to you always

Lucy


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Dear Lucy,

Thank you for your warm response. I wish you all the best on your spiritual journey. And I hope you will keep us posted as you travel.

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God's love is unconditional but entry into His Kingdom is conditional. God does not want rebellious children in His house. That is why satan is cast out. Yes, God the Father is a God of love. He is also a righteous and holy God. How can God put one of his children in hell? Because that is where the child himself chooses to go. A servant resides in the house with his master. If you serve sin then by your actions satan is your master and you choose to be with him. Satan is going to hell. If you serve righteousness then you serve Jesus Christ and you will be with Him. God knows you cannot perfectly keep the law so Christ died in your place IF you CHOOSE Him. Keeping the law doesn't save you. Jesus Christ saves you and then your heart is changed and you WANT to keep the law. You then WANT to serve Christ as your master. You then will be with your master. If you reject Christ you CHOOSE hell. Why would a loving God put you into heaven if you do not want to go there?

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God's love is unconditional but entry into His Kingdom is conditional. God does not want rebellious children in His house. That is why satan is cast out. Yes, God the Father is a God of love. He is also a righteous and holy God. How can God put one of his children in hell? Because that is where the child himself chooses to go. A servant resides in the house with his master. If you serve sin then by your actions satan is your master and you choose to be with him. Satan is going to hell. If you serve righteousness then you serve Jesus Christ and you will be with Him. God knows you cannot perfectly keep the law so Christ died in your place IF you CHOOSE Him. Keeping the law doesn't save you. Jesus Christ saves you and then your heart is changed and you WANT to keep the law. You then WANT to serve Christ as your master. You then will be with your master. If you reject Christ you CHOOSE hell. Why would a loving God put you into heaven if you do not want to go there?


I just love it when people tell us what God is thinking when there is no evidence for that POV. The Bible was written by man for man, God is unlikely to have had any input!


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There's no point in continuing this...Texas Dave is a banned member, and the origin of the thread is 2004....

But I too cannot fathom putting one's Faith in a God who will not respond... tangibly, visibly or audibly....All 'responses' from God are in the person's own mind and perception....

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I would have to disagree with you here, loveapple. The Gospel was written by man but was inspired by God. And there is alot of evidance for it. I am not going to add any but if you want some then I'll be more than happy to give you some.


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Hi there everyone.. My name is Linda Paul and I am the new Spirituality Editor. I have been busily at work updating the site.. I used to be the old editor for Alternative Medicine site a few years ago so I am not a complete stranger here. I just had to get into this discussion.. and offer my opinion. I am by title a Unitarian Universalist Pagan Minister. But, my true identity is the same as all of yours .. a human having a spiritual experience. I don't discount any religion or belief system out there.. I think that all of them hold a key to the puzzle of creation. Do I believe in God? I can't truthfully say that I believe in the biblical version. I do believe, however, that there is a higher power.. and that none of us truly know what they is. If we did we wouldn't have so many belief systems called religions. The choice of what to believe when it comes to spiritual matters is an individual one.. and it is based on our culture, our families, and our life experiences. Do I think that a Christian soul has any more or less value than an Atheist soul.. no I do not. I think we are here to learn two lessons.. and if you think about it they are the two lessons that all the great teachers who walked among us including Jesus tried to teach us... Play nicely and share your toys. All you need is LOVE.


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