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#138353 06/27/02 09:48 PM
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Today the Supreme Court ruled that parents have the right to use school vouchers to select their child's school if real choice is present.

How do you think this will effect schools, school libraries, and the home schooling movement?


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I don't think it is a good idea at all. Not everyone can afford to send their child to a private school and the vouchers will be hurting (only my opinion) allready "poor" schools. Please don't get the wrong opinion of me and I am an American but I do not understand how we continually do very damaging things to the children of this country. I see commercials all the time "Put children first" but I really don't see the "government" doing that.

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The effect of vouchers on truly under funded schools is a concern. Another question is should their be a mandate for other public schools to accept the vouchers and students if they have room?


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#138356 06/30/02 01:57 AM
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I know I am going to stick my foot right in my mouth here but I think they should split all the money EQUALLY amongst ALL schools, that way each child (poor or rich) can get the same opportunities for education. Then if parents want to get private lessons for other educational purposes they can do that for after school.

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Oooh, you like to live dangerously. Equity funding in education is a controversial topic. In some states it's easier to split all the funds collected from homeowners than properly tax "comercial land" in underfunded locations.

I went to an underfunded high school. Our theater department had to use a shop room for productions. In the same city another high school had a REAL theater with an orchastra pit that could be raised and lowered, and a section of the stage that could turn.

Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox before I start.


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Quote:
they should split all the money EQUALLY amongst ALL schools
I have to agree. Where I live we have this program called KERA. It's the Kentucky Education Reform Act. Schools get money based on performance. Umm...hello...does anyone else see the problem with this one? <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Of course the schools in the worst parts of town continually score the lowest, therefore they get less money.

We have one school that has continually done so poor for three years in a row that parents now have the option to send their children to a different school. All transportation must be covered by the school budget of the school they are leaving. Well, duh, they are leaving because the school is doing so bad because they do not get enough funding.

This particular school has a 98 percentile of free or reduced meals. This gives you an idea of how critical the situation in their neighborhood is.

I don't see vouchers as a saving grace either. I can guarantee you that these parents are not happy with the current situation at their school but offering them vouchers certainly won't help the children who are left at this public school. It also puts more of a strain on these parents in my opinion because they must meet the dress code rules and supply lists of the more prestigious schools.

Maybe I'm way off base but I don't think vouchers are the answer. They need to quit spending money needlessly and put it where it's needed - Education. It seems every year, education budgets are slashed all over the US.

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Wait, wait...The students who don't perform well on the science tests because their school cannot afford for them to every touch lab experiments get LESS money!? The library with encyclopedias from the 1970s gets LESS money!? This makes no sense.


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THAT MAKES LOTS OF SENSE!!!!

My husband got tired of hitting our heads against a wall trying to work with our public schools. Teachers and Principals that never returned phone calls. Teachers who expected our daughter to come in knowing the subject so that they didn't have to teach. The teachers who expected our LD daughter to teach herself.

We don't have years to wait for these schools to get their act together. I work and my husband works two jobs so we can send our daughters to Catholic school. I would love to get back some of our tax money to pay the school that teaches our daughters. Maybe my husband could quit his second job.

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Hmmmm.....where we are - southwest TN - having vouchers will allow me to choose a better quality of education. Our public schools, though acceptable as far as education standards go, do not *want* (per the Director of the Board of Education) to exceed the upper level standards. They have no desire to have advanced children excel or work with disabled children to reach a potential they may not have known they had.

Our public school system wants only to meet and, possibly, barely exceed the standards - with that they are satisfied. I AM NOT. I would prefer to have my son go to a school that stretches and gives his brain a workout.

I know my problem is a regional/state concern. I understand that I can work to change the Board of Education - however, the officials have been elected and are in office for another 4 years. By then, my son will be ready for high school! For me, for my area, for my son - I think vouchers are good.

Kitty
(Getting down off her soapbox and taking a long drink of.....water!! LOL)


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You've got the gist of it Paula. The lowest performing schools get the least amount of money. In fact they go one step further and award money directly to the teachers who have excellent overall class scores.

I saw on CNN just today that in a recent poll 51% of those polled approve of vouchers as long as it's not funded by higher taxes. I would say that this is where I fall.

However, I honestly think that if our government officials would quit wasting money on frivilous stuff there would be enough money to not only fund the vouchers, but to also provide equal amounts of money in decent amounts to public schools.

I understand many parents desire to have their children attend a better school. In Caring Parents case it would help ease the burden of paying for private school, which became necessary because of a lack of help from the public school system. In Kitty's case, which I've heard of before in TN, it might spur the public school system there to actually do a better job.

In our KERA they adopted the Portfolio system which has been a pretty good improvement. My kids have been able to keep track of their writing and reading skills since day one of Kindergarten. It has also enabled the teachers to more quickly identify problem areas. If more parents had the ability to make a choice it might spur more school systems to adopt better performing programs and higher standards.

The only problem is the possibility of higher taxes. If my taxes get any higher I won't be able to afford to pay them.

LOL My hubby just stopped and I explained what the discussion was all about. He asked if I wanted his opinion. Being the good wife I said "sure". He said that if it enables a child to be able to go to a private school, he's all for it.

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